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He waited three freakin' years for this?

That's what you'd think, given that the whole idea behind hybrids is to recapture energy while braking and then use it to get moving again, but all my best mpg comes from highway driving, including (when it works) the 62mpg in my sig image. On a trip to Cleveland about 3 years ago, I was even at 76mpg for a while (though I'm guessing I had a hell of a tail wind... the best I usually get on that trip is about 65).

A couple of manufacturers have tried to implement this, but the bad PR that resulted always blew up in their faces, and the "feature" quietly removed from later models. Personally, I'd just give the Rosewill and Verbatim carts a try... you can get one of each for less than one retail HP

Another thing you might consider is getting a refill kit. Unlike inkjets, laser toner is fairly easy to work with, and if you spill, it only takes a vacuum cleaner w/ HEPA filter to clean up.

You guys can play around with some real data if you like... My '06 Civic Hybrid's real life performance. A couple of notes on how it works... - I fill up on a day, mark the current odo reading, and the octane I used. Then move up to the previous row to note how far I went on that last fill, the mpg according to the car's computer (FCD), how much I put in (refill), and the sorta-average temperature of when I was driving. The gallons used is computed based off the FCD. This results in two different values lower down for actual mpg... one according to the FCD, and one according to refill. The FCD value is always a little worse than the refill version, some folks barely at all, others by as much as 2mpg. - Individual cells: == B182 - This lets me stick in a guesstimate of how much gas has cost over the lifetime of the car == B183 - This gets used in B184 to compare against other cars. == B184 - Uses the guesstimate in B182 together with the 'versus another car' in B183 to figure out how much money I've saved compared to that other car. == F184 - Since the trip odo reads in tenths, and the lifetime in whole, simply adding up all the trips doesn't quite match the lifetime anymore. This cell just lets me address that inconvenience in one place. You can do some really whack things, like say "Gas costs $0.01/gal, and that other car gets 100mpg," to make it look like I'm losing money, or a cost of $6/gal versus 10mpg (say you're comparing to a H2 in Europe) to make it look like the car's actually paid for itself in gas savings alone. Right now, my best guess is that gas has averaged roughly $2.80 since I bought this, and I generally compare to 35mpg (what I think the top-of-the-line non-hybrid Civic would be getting with my driving style). Interesting notes: - Temperature plays a huge role in fuel efficiency - Changing from Bridgestone SE200-02 tires to Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires knocked a good 15% off fuel efficiency - My new job's commute (6mi stop-and-go down Sawmill) versus my old (35-50mph non-stop up into Delaware Co) also fscks up efficiency.

My uncle uses Rosewill at the law firm he runs the IT group for up in Cleveland, and he says they do pretty well. The reviews on NewEgg are all over the place, though, from "Just as good as OEM" to "Complete crap"

Pretty sure it was covered in mine, though that is pushing something like 20 years ago already (eep!) One question for the officers on here... what are you supposed to do in situations where there's really no good direction you can go in to clear way for the emergency vehicle. Places like a bridge where there is no shoulder, or a traffic jam.

The German in me just shed a tear of pure joy.

As far back as I can remember, to the Schottenheimer+Wyche eras, the Browns have always been called the Clowns, and the Bengals the Bungles. Sorta like how the Tennessee Titans have had the nickname "The Flaming Thumbtacks" since the moment their logo was revealed.

I just wish they'd be a bit more consistent... they up and smack teams like the Patriots and Saints, barely miss beating the Jets, then get schooled by the Bills and (as I write this) are losing to the Bungles.

Sounds like blipverts to me, and we know how that ended up!

Sending PM... the person responsible for hiring this position might be in tomorrow.

http://www.expedient.com/company/noc-analyst.php The guy we thought was going to be it had some difficulties adjusting to the facility, so we're looking again

Whether the plane is on a treadmill, a dry runway, or a sheet of ice, it doesn't matter. Airplane engines, both jet and prop, work using the same laws of motion as a rocket as they push (jet) or pull (prop) the plane forwards. I don't see some giant invisible runway for rockets, do you? What I'm not sure about is why this pic says "As long as plane velocity is greater than air velocity, the plane will take off." No, not true... there must be a differential between the two sufficient to create lift over the plane's wings (stall speed)... for something small, like a Cessna 152, this is as low as 50kts. A larger bird, like the 747, requires a differential of over 100kts. If the plane is only going 20kts faster than the air, sorry, you're falling out of the sky. What does matter to this whole treadmill argument (and rain/snow/ice/wind/whatever), is whether or not you have side-to-side motion. That's what fucks you over while trying to take off or land, as it did with .

Do yourself a favor and terminate to a socket/wall-plate, then cover the last little bit with a regular cable. Doesn't seem like a big deal now, but you'll be kicking yourself when Biggie chews it and you have to pull a whole new one.

Thanks for the offer, Jeff... got the docs I need for the CVT change, but I do need to get an idea of who can turn the wrenches I either don't own, or don't trust myself with. Curious about two things.. 1- What's this HCH in for, and is it first gen (7th gen platform) or second (8th gen)? 2- I could have sworn IPS was over by the 270-161 interchange. All I remember at 23 and Polaris is Discount Tire, Tuffy, and Midas all bunched together.

Bollocks!! Any Honda spec shops around that won't try to turn me into a ricer? On a better note, F-YOU HONDA!!! I finally found the CVT instructions scanned in a 4-year old post on a hippie board :bangbang: (But I'd still like a copy of that AllData set, if it's still around)

I already have the damned oil and filters for when I do it myself. Hello... I have said flat out a couple of times now that if it weren't for the CVT, and that I just want to relax for a change instead of spending an hour on frozen concrete, I'd be doing this one myself as well. Who's got those AD DVD's? I'll come over with a spare hard drive now if you've got the time. Can't believe I'm catching this much flack for wanting a weekend off.

This is very useful info I haven't had the need to find a real mechanic since I moved down here about six years ago (except once when the only option was Germain Ford because of a rare part at 9pm). Jones, you can bet I'll be checking out MK when I need something more than what NTB can handle. Nitrous (and others), learn to read. I keep telling you folks I do my own oil and filters and just wanted a break for once. 60 hour weeks suck. Only the CVT that worries me since it's not documented

You'll have to explain this, as I haven't watched SP in something like 12 years now. If it's something to do with hybrid versus non-hybrid, that has nothing to do with it. Go back and read the thread, you'll notice that not once did I ever blame these prices on the type of car I drive. In fact, except for Evolved8 who mentions the higher cost of 0w20 (which I picked up at Napa for $5.79) and Archie (whose point I can't quite fathom), the fact that I have a hybrid is a complete non-issue. What is at issue is: 1. Why labor at a dealership costs so much (my initial rant) 2. Why standard maintenance items are not fully documented in the OM (which prevents me from just doing it all myself)

Why bother? Two reasons: 1. Nothing about the CVT fluid change is documented in the owner's manual, and there's an odd process to make sure you put in the right amount. Then again, the OM doesn't even mention adjustment points for the headlights, it just says "the headlights were properly aimed when your vehicle was new... Adjustment should be done by your dealer." So any time I go over a pot-hole and the aim gets knocked off, I have to visit my dealer? 2. After working three 60+ hour weeks in a row, I'd prefer not to spend a weekend afternoon in near-freezing weather mucking about underneath my car. There's a price I'm willing to pay for convenience (and to feel confident some kid didn't cross-thread the drain bolt while staring at the cheerleader through the waiting-room window), but $90/hr is not it. I think you just described about 3/4 of northern Columbus... If the CVT process were documented, I would. That's the only piece of this car, apart from recalls and small consumables (my cell charger eats those microfuses for lunch) that ever makes me visit. I kinda wonder if it's in that AllData set someone mentioned a couple months ago, but didn't reply to my PM about.

Alright, so Immke's one of the cheapest around, and the other folks who run shops all say they're similar in pricing. Fair 'nuff. But I still haven't heard someone explain why $90/hr is a reasonable number. How much does a factory tech make per hour, and how much does a shop have to carry for paying that tech's Social Security, benefits (if any), overhead, and shit like that? If you're afraid of tipping your hand to the competition, go ahead and PM me. This is exactly why I started this thread. I get quoted a big number for what is, essentially, just a fluid and filter swap, and this is the impression that results. Again, if someone could explain why these numbers are so large, that impression might never arise, and I wouldn't have felt the need to vent. Perception versus reality. The perception is I'm paying for nothing more than the "Honda Genuine" name at an official Honda shop. The reality is that I'm looking at my receipts from the two times I had this done at Honda Marysville, and both times it was $240 (call it $270 since I provided the oil and oil filter). Does driving a half-hour away from Columbus really make that much of a difference? Does Marysville pay their techs shit compared to Columbus? Is it because there's a factory just down the street? Last time I stopped at Immke to pick up some wiper blades (a whole separate rant, but not their fault), I mentioned the difference in pricing, and the service rep doing my paperwork said whoever quoted me the first time this maintenance code came up was wrong, and I should come back to them. So now I did, but still got a number 25% higher than Marysville. What gives? :bs: Whoever it was stood there and pulled out a calculator as if I don't know how to do math. Not the way to make someone with an engineering degree, who's staring at you with sticker shock after working 12+ hour days for three weeks straight, feel better. I would like the convenience of local service and a chance to relax, but if it's going to cost that much, screw it. Feh... the only part of this particular maintenance interval I'd rather Honda do is the trans flush. Everything else I typically do in the driveway at my parents'. It does beg the question, though... if Honda wants their CVT fluid changed at (roughly) 25k intervals, why don't regular automatics need it? Or do they, but nobody realizes it because transmissions aren't obvious the way oil is?

Nah, I'm averaging just under an hour as well. My "super reliable, practical, and economical Honda" has this pain in the ass plastic underbody shield that you have to remove in order to drain the oil and get at the filter. I also have to put the front on jackstands, as there isn't enough clearance to get much more than my head underneath it otherwise.

Ok, just how much are these guys being paid? If Immke's at $90/hr, Kevin's shop at $84, you at $93, and MAG at $105, maybe I'm in the wrong line of work! 1- I already said I know my oil is expensive stuff, but being told $130 for something so simple raises my hackles. 2- Again, how much are these guys getting paid? Sounds like the labor rates are actually low for this town, but I'm still having trouble swallowing that number. 3- This sounds more realistic, though at this point, I'm either going to drop by a dealership (not Immke) for only the trans and do the rest myself, or figure out where I can buy the stuff and just do that myself as well. 4- Never said they were, just that the prices for stuff that isn't especially difficult made me feel like they were trying to take me for a ride.

Kevin, it's not that profit is a dirty word, but honestly, why are some of these prices are so insane? Granted, it's not like 0w-20 is cheap ($7/qt last spring), but already, your line is like a 30% off sale!