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I asked the question 1st. Why should I continue to waste my time doing work with endless rabbit trails when you wont answer 1 question. I don't think you can answer it. That is why you are snow balling.
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Trying to snow job people when you still cannot answer the question I asked. Now for the last time.... How do you know you are 100% sure you are going to heaven if the bible is full of mistakes? Remember you have told me that you are 100% sure. Either answer the question or shut your trap!
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So Thorne, You still have not anwsered how you know 100% for sure you are going to heaven. Or is heaven and hell also not literal? You have said the blood of Christ is not literal, the bible contains errors and contradiction, the time lines in the bible are wrong and so on. So if you do not believe the minor details how can you trust that you will go to heaven? I am awaiting your :bs: answer
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Do I need to bold it again?
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You have not posted one yet, because there are no contradictions. You may have different accounts of a story from one person to the next but they do not contradict.
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I hope that no one on this board takes your knowledge of the bible seriously. You never answer any biblical question with any sort of commonsense, or even moderately acceptable method of interpretation. The only way you answer is what is convenient for you to justify what you want it to say. Your reference to the old testament and going to hell is just another example of how you twist the word of god. The old testament shows us we need a Saviour. The new testament tells us of the arrival of the Saviour. We cannot follow the old testament law to the letter and God knew that, but he had to show us that before a Saviour could be delivered. Otherwise we would ignore the Saviour. again I ask.... Can you point out one instance in the bible that says the a person was baptized before salvation(becoming a believer)? I assume that you do not have an answer for this.
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Here we go again..... Baptism is not salvation. There are no references in the bible to that. You have just made that up. This is another prime example of what I said about your failure to understand the bible with any sort of rational. It is statement like this from people like you that corrupt and continue to cast doubt on Gods word. If you take a person that is new to Christianity and does not have an solid understanding of the bible yet, and start telling them crap like that they may end up confused and start doubting the salvation they have received. BTW... Can you point out one instance in the bible that says the a person was baptized before salvation(becoming a believer)? BBTW.... The answer to pi is not wong, they have not taken it out to many desimal points. For example when I was in middle school they told us pi was 3.14. But as I got older, I found out the number has been taken out to the billion of digits. Does that mean my middle school teacher was wrong? No, the more complex answer was not needed at that time for my purpose.
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How do you know the saving power of the blood of Christ is literal?
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Moses lived pre-flood the earth was very different according to the bible. The book of Genesis tells how God "divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament." Most likely the earth was covered in a layer of ice crystals and water vapor that filter out UV radiation and gave us a oxygen rich environment. this could have resulted in many odd things like living hundreds of years or the flood. The earth may have looked like this: http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/flood/graphic/flood.gifhttp://www.genesispark.org/genpark/flood/graphic/watervaporsm.jpg
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I will not ever say that another in a different denomination is not saved. I dont expect you to believe everything exactly as I do. But I would expect that since you claim to be 100% sure that if you would die today you would go to heaven that you would actually believe the rest of God's Word. I guess I am a simple person, I believe if I want to have faith in Gods word I better believe Gods word. I just don't see how you can put 100% faith in the saving power of Christ blood, then turn around and slap God in the face with the rest of the book.
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But you make up the rational for your interpretation. You fail to use the context, history, lexicology, syntax or any other acceptable method of interpretation.
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The problem is you are not using any biblical proof for your views. you just use your unfounded opinion. there are lots of things in the bible that I don't necessarily like, but I have to live with it because it is god will. Until you submit to gods, will you will continue to make up doctrinal stances that do not line up with the bible and are only used to suit your "feelings".
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the bible was written by 43 authors, contains 66 books, over a period of 1800 years. The authors lived in different regions, spoke different languages, and most never met. I would challenge to people on this board to try to writ a story about any given subject with out conversing at all. I wonder how the two stories would look. I don't think they would mesh like the bible does. Interesting thought. I would say if you are correct we are in a lot of trouble. The natural tendency for any thing over time is to degrade. Look at our society now, it is not getting better, we are losing the moral ground. Our standards in just the last 40 years continue to get worse.
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No I do not agree with him....... here is why.... Genesis 1:1 is dated.... it says in the beginning. That means from the start before time was a factor. Genesis 1:2 covers what the earth looked like. It was without form and filled with darkness. So the guy flaps what ever way the latest "science points him" I would just stick with the bible read it for what it says... The book is NEVER wrong. The article is like the serpent in the garden, it cast doubt on God's word therefore opening the bible up to be read in what ever fashion suite you at the time. The bible says that people will do what is right in their own minds even though it is contrary to the Word.
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I have said it once I and I will say it again, your bible interpretation technique are not correct. You look at the bible with todays eyes not the time when it was written. Just think if the bible would have said in it you should not listen to "rock" music.... Just think of what the reader even 150 years ago would have thought. you need to read the bible in the context it was written. To the people 2-6K years ago 3 was close enough. As a matter of fact they did not have the equipment to take pi it the 20th decimal point. Even if the bible said it was 3.14 you would still say it was wrong because they did not say it was 3.14159xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
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I get so sick of the government in our business. What business is it of theirs if I stuff $20's in my mattress for ten years then deposit it into a bank. The sooner our country gets rid of the IRS and Federal reserve the better.
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That is NOT evolution!!!!!!! We eat different now than we did 200 years ago. Did you ever stop to think that that is a US only thing. The average height charts are for the US not world wide. As nations are westernized that happens. Look at Japan they have gotten taller with the influx of western diets. Please go read the works of Dr. Price, Dr. Pottenger, and Dr. Lee.
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You are so far "off" I dont even know were to start.
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You are talking about micro-adaptation, not macro-adaptation. when is the last time you have seen one kind, give birth, hatch etc, to another kind. For example.... dogs will never form into cats, goats will not give birth to a horse.
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Well .... If they were the second coming I don't think that they could build an institution to hold them if God wants them out. You are gullible too, just in the reverse. You and many others here have a religion, the head of the church is Satan and the main doctrine is evolution. The Lie of evolution is nothing more than Satans attempt to fool you.
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They are forced in the way that it is part of the curriculum. they don't attend they get bad grade for that section. Fairly simple... What you fail to understand is the bible is supported scientifically with sound science, unlike the the THEORYof Evolution, The Big bang THEORY etc. Remember Scientist are the ones that thought the earth was flat when the bible told us it was round. the Scientist also thought the universe revolved around the earth when the bible told the the sun was the center. Sure I can show you but you have been programed by the "screwol's" to believe otherwise and you will not accept it. You will just go into the typical name calling, and bashing that goes along with evolutionist. Check out the video named 50 facts v. evolution part A and B. Here This may help you understand some of the faulty and sometime ridiculous "science that is fed into our children's "noodles" as fact
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The Catholic church only sought to oppress the bible and that still goes on today. Those of you that have a Rheims-Douay bible sitting on a shelf should get it out and read the preface of it. The preface will astonish you. From Caththruth.com I am not sure how much more wrong this quote can be.
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Theory is presented in schools as fact. Children are given test on these theories. Therefore if a child has a different opinion they get the question wrong. The Homo's have infiltrated the schools and we have book in the schools that have two dads, two moms living together, They tell our children it is right to have these deviant behaviors. My cousins children in Hawaii are forced to yearly attend Gay Lesbian Bi-sexual and trans gender events at their schools. They are not allowed to opt out of the programs. So why are the GLBT crowd not forced to attend Evangelical classes at the school?
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