there not excuses. and i admit i got beat by the gayon. i am just saying that it will get beat. i had several issues with my car that day. list- bald streettires = no traction/ clutch slipping, low bottle psi, i was spraying for 3 weeks up untill track day, my exhaust fell of twice at the track. and i havent been to a track since 07 norwalk track day. the srt4 ran well and impressed me. I have never seen a car get hot lapped like that.