Yes, it is not an AMA testing event, it is a trackday that he was using for some extra setup time. The key is he and the other guys were able to run those times and be able to avoid the traffic. I prefer the time when we gave the AMA guys a separate session. It was I,A,and AMA. I instructed and then went out and ran with the AMA guys sans vest. The big thing with the times in Advanced is the wide array of equipment as well. Motards, SV's, 250's, etc. Race pace on an sv at mid-o hovers in the low 1:4x to higher 1:3x depending on who's pushing. So to say you must run a 1:4x at a trackday wouldn't be right. I'd prefer to have people running 1.50 and faster personally, but it really is easier to just be able to watch people's lines and see if they are advanced in their skills on the track and bumping based on that. Sure some guys could crank some fast laps, but if they aren't in control to do so then that doesn't matter.