Hey my brother has that civic. It's definately a different kind of car. Now, don't forget my point on inflation Ben. My next vehicle is either going to be a V8 Tundra or Mustang GT. I don't know yet. Probably the Toyota Tundra because of bike towing, and hauling shit in the bed. It'd be more right for us. Nice. I've considered a Tundra as our next vehicle also for the same reason. They have a red Crewmax I think it is in the showroom at the dealer up by the Dayton Mall. You would think it should come with the sidestep standard which I thought was odd. Are the Hybrids still several thousand more than the regular one? If so it would take along while to save money driving one instead of the normal Civic. Of course it would still be better for the environment than the alternative. The wife got a Scion Xa to trek back and forth in and she's been averaging 34-36 mpg. Neat little cars.