I've only stuffed a couple guys, but that's not saying much being in the I group. So all I need to do basically is go teens or better at Beaver or .20's at Nelsons and my pace would be okay for racing. I just though of something interesting to try on a track day. Get a staffer/faster friend and play some leap frog, only have the faster guy try to get around you at different areas of the track. This would do a couple things, prep you for getting passed by faster riders so you get used to it and not get spooked. It can also get you feed back on line selections and consistency on the track. Two important things that go into making a decent average racer. Now if that damn Drew would get his own ride and I could put that into action. Craig's going to be so close to Brian this season that Brian will need to buy a bigger suit so it will fit him and Craig at the same time.