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I think papa mixed his Troy's up.

By the way, Corser won championships on twins and inline 4's.

Corser's win came the year Fogarty got hurt didn't it? And again on the Suzuki I think.

What was the first year the 1000cc ran agains the 1000cc twins?

2003 I think.. Have to run and check teams and results. But yeah Corser was top 5 pretty much with either bike. I wonder how well he will be able to develop the BMW...

DOT's are way different than a street tire.

But you already knew that....

Yeah DOTs should have less grip in the wet without silica.. But since there wasn't any standing water to tread they did fine. And Nashville has a lot of grip in the wet. Not like our Ice rinks we have up here.

Still that puddle at Nelson after the crossover road was nasty... I remember in the 20 lap race after about 6-7 laps of getting hit with a few gallons in the chest I got in front of 3rd or 4th so I had clean track..

Should have been in Indy this year for the GP race... massive rain + 70mph wind.

I was in the Stands in T7 at the top. With one leg wrapped under the seat in front, and an umbrella over my back leaning against the railing...

When the whole thing would move it was

When did Bayliss ride for Yamaha??? I am scratching my head on that one.

Had to be way back when in the old 750cc days..

I've raced Nelson plenty of times in the rain, and the entrance to 12 is my FAVORITE place to pass - wet or dry, but especially in the rain.

Street tires suck at the track - period. You should know better

Well I had just wadded my 01 at Putnam 3 weeks before and was at my dad's Christmas Day present school CLASS at mid OH on my new 03 1k...

I have never been on the track with streets since then.. Though I did run Nahshville drying with the DOTs as I didn't want to destroy my rains first day on them.

Of course, I know you lean off a degree at slower speeds, but I see a picture in my mind of a guy leaned WAY off his bike while it is straight up and down. Like the video games at Dave and Busters...

That is precisely what I was doing LOL. I remember sliding on my rear off into the grass just going WTH... Got up picked the bike off then rode back in the grass pretty much the whole way to the pits.

Street tires in the rain on a track anywhere isn't good. Also, you don't have to touch the brakes to load the front. I suspect you loaded the front with even a little off the throttle. Riders do it w/o knowing...

How do you hang off a bike at 25mph?

Same as you do other way but with the bike near vertical.. I know I didn't roll off the gas as that was one thing I made sure I didn't do.

The only thing I can think of was oil. The CLASS day was right after Vintage days and there was oil spills all day. One they shut the track down for 30 minutes to clean up. A guy left a oil trail from T1 to the back straight.

I was in the middle of the concrete in the Keyhole (didn't want to try and hold tight as if I missed the seam change in the rain I was sure of to put me down), and lost the front just as it really starts to drop downhill when the front just exit stage left.

There's a little more to it than that.

However, a good set of rain tires on the track can be a lot of fun

Hey Todd you been on Nelson when the pond is there just over the Cross over road out of the kink into 12?

Rain tires make rain riding a lot more relaxing.. Aint nothing like knee down in a down hill off camber chicane or WOT on the banking in the tri-oval at Nashville in the rain...

I had lost all confidence in street tires in the rain at Mid OH when I lost the front dang near vertical in the keyhole. Never touched the brakes, was on positive throttle but neutral, 25 mph, hanging off the bike, and still front said buh bye.

Hell yeah it is. I didn't have to try or concentrate at all the 3 times I've crashed on the street over the years...

I am an equal oppurtunity crasher.

Street

Track

Solo

Assisted

Suzuki

Honda

Yamaha (still working on Kawasaki)

BMW

Low side

High Side

Rain

Dry

I started on 600 inline then went to a 1000 twin, back to inline 4, and ridden dad's TL-S a lot.

I know the motors pull well off corners down low (really noticeable on the track when I rode the TL-S back and forth same day with my 03 600), but motors are so smooth they feel slow.. The 97 TL-S had character like a 4 cyl but with same low end torque.

Actually the vibration from a V-Twin hurts me more. I can handle the Buzz associated with inline 4s but the hard Pulse from V-Twins sends my hands numb after 30 minutes.

I have ridden any of the new Itallian twins that have lost the weight associated with the twins of the late 90s and early 2000s

Dang I need to send them some pics. I only got pics of bike and car from one crash and lost pics from my first bike vs car.

Not one scar from either crash.

Beware the Yota...

I am up just west of Cbus working for the weekend... Yay.

ok for the sake of ending the suspense i will post a picture of the whole car. for those that know me they know this is obviously not my wife nor my car. i stole this from a thread on gixxer.com

I figured you stole it from Zook. What not gonna post his other G/F pic

I had to see this twice now.

My tecknic held up fine to a 80 mph high side with no seam stretching or tearing.

lizard what one do i need for the 03 750? One from an 03 r1? I have wrist problems after my highside and its no longer as easy to turn it that far.

Brandon I used an 04 R1 on my 03 600 and your 750s are the same as that model year 600 so it will work.

I think I have the R1 tube at home to put on... I always get the two mixed up on which is 1/4 and which is 1/8th

Yeah the 600 I never had a issue with it, as just a little extra finger roll and I was there, but holding on with your fingers on a 1k WOT sucks and I can't get used to wrapping my hand around the throttle.

For Suzukis we just buy a R6 throttle tube and put it on.. Reminds me I need to do that for my race bike. It is not a need faster accleration, but more comfort when running WOT.

I have MCSEs in my current role at my company and we are as of now very basic end user support. Almost a tier 1 help desk role. I really need to get back to school for something to get out of here.

Well once the WERA schedule is out I can say if I can make it.

My 3 most scary wheelies.

1: 97 TL-1000S was at a HS buddies few years after graduation, and as I left they wanted to see me take off (not wheelie, just get on the gas). I pull out of drive way get some room then turn around. The road had a intersection about 200 ft from where I was then after that a downhill. I get on the gas hard, but not WOT, 6k RPM the bike starts to lift a few inches. As I hit the down hill after the intersection I hit 8k rpm and powerband #2. Rear tire chase down the hill while front rises. As I hold the gas neutral and bike floats down the hill, and as I get to the bottom roll off gas and front sets down. Then I had to change my pants.

#2 Heading to Class I Miami Hamilton

As I make the turn onto Peck Blvd i roll first gear and lean into the Right hander. Midway through corner I decide to shift 2nd and hit the gas. Still leaned over the front comes up about a foot and half. Ok so I cross the bars up to full lock to the left and roll the gas to keep it up. Well bike decides to drop back to N and set down. I barely get the bars straight as it slams down and I stand the bike up. Then go to class after throwing underwear away.

#3 (did it twice) 1998 CBR 900

Was trying wheelies but struggling getting the front up on purpose. So 1st gear i grab the clutch at 10 mph rev it and dump it. Front wheel comes up so fast the tank hits me in the chest and knocks the wind out of me. Lucking I rolled off immediatly and compression braking brought the front back down.

I watched a buddy on 95 CBR 900 do a standup into 5th gear up the hill on 27 toward Colerain from River Rd. entrance. the worst part was the 20 mph cross wind...

My most eye popping was at a race where I was battling for the win and almost every time out of the last corner (only spot I could get along side the 1k with my 600) I would cut under him at the apex and then stand up a bit off the knee and dang near pin the throttle.

Several times while cranked over the front would come up as I started to stand the bike up.

Only thing I can put out there is it said they kid had the bike about a week. From what I gather is that he had ridden a FZ6 some before getting an R1 and ridden dirt bikes.

But still 150+ RWHP R1 is a lot different then a FZ6 and Dirt bikes. Now if he had been riding it 6-8 months I could see him being able to handle it and making a stupid mistake and not the power's fault. I feel power was involved if it was a highspeed crash in a parking lot. He hit the gas and got going faster then he thought he would.

I don't think the father was a tool for getting him a bike, but a R1 that was not the smartest thing to do. The kid could could have been just as happy with a R6, GSXR 600, ZX6R, 600RR, and may have been able to save it in this situation or we could be discussing a 600 too much for a 16 yr old.

If he was in the parking lot was he showing off for others? If so where is their descriptions of what happened. He could have been trying to learn the bike in a parking lot environment instead of the street. Who knows.

I know the first time I started to acclerate (normal hot hard) on my 97 TLS after a few months on a SecaII 600 it about jerked the bars out of my hands.

I had to put a new chain on mine with the +2 on the back. I believe it is a 520...

Pretty much all 1000cc use a 530 chain... I have always done +2 rear with stock chain. it shortens the wheelbase but hey that makes it more flickable.

600s run a 525 chain.

Yeah +2 is all I have on my street bike, and is nice since it doesn't require a new chain. As soon as the chain is ready to be changed it is getting 520 -1 +1..