you are exactly right, that is the whole reason i have a problem with this type of stuff, people only have a problem with anykind of degrading term when it comes to them, the only person on here that has said something about how he doesn't like derogatory words and i have never seen once use a some kind of negative comment is scott (the pikey), so i guess then he is the only one allowed to complain when people say it, the rest of you have done it in some way, or you haven't been on the board enough or came out enough for anyone to know you