Moto-Brian

I wanted to invite everyone to our KTM MX demo event at Briar Cliff MX Park. We will have the semi chuck full of the new 2012 KTM MX bikes. The list includes: -125 SX - Brand new chassis with linkage! -150 SX - Brand new chassis with linkage! -250 SX - Brand new chassis with linkage! -250 SX-F - Small updates which includes now an electric start! -350 SX-F - Small updates. -450 SX-F - Updates include a new clutch and minor changes. I am not 100% sure if we will have any of our 2012 Off Road bikes as of yet. I am trying to get that sorted as they have a really cool Off Road loop there now. Everything for MX will be on the "C" track. Look for the truck. The way it works is that you MUST BE 18 YEARS OR OLDER. You need the required MX gear - helmet, boots, gloves. You need to sign up - get there early to avoid any lines. You will get a punch card which will allow you 2 laps on every model. We may extend that depending on the amount of people and the amount of bikes. If we get the Off Road bikes, that's a lot of machines to ride. We are pretty relaxed and can be easily persuaded in letting you ride more... This is a fun event and usually gets a great turn out. Come on out and play and ride the new 2012s. These are in showrooms, but if we get the Off Road bikes, you will have a chance to ride them before they are in dealers. We will not be shipping Off Road until late July. If you come, look me up. I will be punching cards and doing the Rider's Meeting...

It's a fine enough question. There's a LOT more than just figuring out how far you can lean a bike. Body position, throttle control, etc. I have seen guys with edges worn and not know a damn thing about turning a bike and what to do while leaned over. The idea is that with those lean angles, you really need to understand what to do while leaned over and what inputs need made to make it a fun ordeal. Again, use the tire marker. If you do not want a horizontal line across the tire edge to edge, just go about 2 inches from the edge to the center on each side. That way, you can tell by how much is left as to how far over you are... The rear is easy. Do the front... That will be the real story. Guys that look at chicken strips on the rear are looking at it all wrong. It is the front that is hardest to get completely removed...

Use a tire marker. Run a line from left side to right side. You'll see well enough the lean you get...

Alrighty... Sold a few "V" fronts to some guys and some take offs, etc. I updated the list. Basically, I am willing to part tires in terms of guys that just want rears. The issue I have is that I really want to sell the fronts and not get stuck with them. I don't think that will happen as the "V" and "A" fronts are killer and especially since the "V" wears so well (I get 2 rears to 1 front). So, shoot me a PM. I will be at Mid-Ohio for AMA from Thursday until Tuesday. I can bring them with and drop off and take care of anyone that is coming up... Also, I am through CBus often so, I can meet at Polaris or similar.

Who is the rider?

Might pick up an Adventure. That's as close at street legal I'll get this year. My RS ain't gonna make it through an inspection.

I cannot post a price as I need to discuss off line or PMs in respect to the dealers I have. However, I have a couple of my bikes for sale and if you are in the market, CRAZY awesome deals... Anyways, Specs: 2011 KTM 350 SXF. LOW, LOW hours. I seriously only rode it one time at the new Chilli-MX park in Chillicothe. It is like new. -It will have everything OEM stock. The exhaust and handle bars have never been on the bike other than when it came in the crate. They will be perfect. -There are currently custom graphics on the bike from PG Graphics, but easily can be removed and the brand new graphics are under them. Our graphics are infused into the plastic panels and would be perfect if the PG stuff is removed. -Typical wear on the left side black area on the airbox panel. -No frame rub, no dents, dings, etc. -Tires are pretty much brand new - OEM Bridgestones -No scratches on the rims at all. Basically, this is a low hour bike that is probably as good as if it came off the showroom floor. I have had it sitting as I seem to ride our fleet bikes more than anything... Next, The Husaberg... 2010 Husaberg FX450. Parks can attest, the only time I have on this thing is at the Supermoto track at CRP. He can maybe help, but Paul, Parks and I rode maybe 2-3 hours? NEVER, EVER on dirt. -Wheels have never seen a spec of dirt and only were on the bike from crate to trailer to garage. BRAND NEW TIRES AND WHEELS! -Exhaust mid-pipe/silencer is brand new as I had a slip-on on it as soon as I got it home. You get the OEM set-up so, new. -As clean as it gets. Has a little tire rub on the chain and some tire dust from Supermoto. -Will have grip plugs on the ends as I did have bark busters on the thing. MINOR indentations from the bar clamps for the busters. Nothing serious at all, but they are there... Basically, the FX450 is a bad ass trail bike. The GNCC guys run them and they rip. They ARE NOT MX based machines, but you can ride them easily enough at Briar on the "C" track for example... We were running them at Millville... Again, cannot post a price, but you'll be pretty hard pressed to find anything in as good of shape for the amount of money needed to get out of these. PM for details.

I see someone mentioned an 85 to get around. Just a heads up, the bike you ride needs to have a license plate on it... Otherwise, it will be impounded... It's been a rule for a LOOOOONG time.

Dude, you HD guys have some seriously thin skin. First of all, you assume I wouldn't have stated he was on a Honda Cruiser. Second, he WAS on an HD. Christ... I tell a story of a guy that was being a complete idiot and tool bag and mention the HD he was riding and you guys think I am all of a sudden bitching about HD owners. He was a dumb ass on a motorcycle. Vague enough and politically correct enough to keep your panties from getting knotted? Wow.

Not to rub it in, but we just returned from running all the 2012 KTM and Husaberg machines today at Millville. We rode the woods loop for the first half and then the MX track AFTER the Loretta's qualifier... It was rough on the MX track, but what a great day!!

Not sure where it remotely turned into a "All HD riders are dousche bags"... Hoblick OWNS an HD and was just being funny. You need to step back and realize that it was a dumb ass on a cruiser and nothing more. If he'd been on a sportbike, I would have been even more critical because that's what I ride mostly. This ain't no anti-HD thread, man. Unless you turn it that way. PS, what brand of bike got you started in riding motorcycles and create the passion you have for them? We can all get along, dude...

Well, mostly the cruiser group, but was behind a dousche bag on an HD in my home town. Speed limit is 35. Easy, right? Well, seeing he had his ear full of his cell phone being held by his CLUTCH hand, he couldn't shift up any gears apparently. So, we sat in a string if cars doing freakin 20-25 mph while heavy on coming traffic prevented passing said dousche. Two tips. One, obvious. Cell phones, talking and riding are pretty stupid. Two, guess what? You can upchange gears w/o pulling the lever in. I've done it on a bigger pile than the guy was riding and it works fine. Bonus tip. Maybe try and save the pavement from being staind when your gourd plays raquette ball with the road and wear a helmet. Also, another save your life moment, use those silly and hopelessly useful mirrors to see what's going on behind you. Maybe then I wouldn't have had the urge to NASCAR you into the weeds. Seriously.

Wellllll... A 750 will be a faster and better bike. 848s are comparable to a modern day 600 which again - is well beyond most people's abilities... They just won't admit it. There's no way that a Duc is cheaper to maintain than a modern 600. The first valve job on a 600 is most likely about 3 valve jobs in on a Duc. Replacement parts are probably similar anymore, but still, the Japanese are going to be needing repaired less often and therefore, less money to spend when you weigh it in the long haul. Do what you want. Sounds like you are sold on an 848. Why bother here anymore? It's like asking what oil is best. Motul guys are going to say Motul. Rotella guys, Rotella. So, Duc guys are going to say the Duc. Jap guys vice versa. All I can say is that we have less cost of operation than my buddy has in his Duc. So, take that for what it is worth...

Rusty- The way to ride an MX or dirt bike properly is night and day different than a sportbike. You need to try and stay centralized on TOP of the bike to maneuver it well. Ass opposed to a sportbike where you lean off and get your ass off the seat in a turn. Hopefully, you are riding a 4 stroke. These will help you on the sportbike to a degree. Meaning, it isn't going to make you faster really, but will teach you that loose is fine. Spinning the rear, sliding and having the bike moving under you will make the sportbike feel MUCH more planted. They do change direction well and are definitely lighter weight, but it is all relative. You aren't going to be riding over 100 mph on an MX bike trying to change direction. It won't do it... However, they move and handle very well at slower speeds... Basically, have fun, but watch it - they can bite like a muther offer!

Busa over the BMW? Power of the Busa holding you back??? Seriously... I have a race prepped GSXR that would suit you kindly. Slap on a set of lights and a tail light and you're golden. Just a click under 200 hp at the ground. Should suit your needs... Seriously though, unless you are looking at the new EVO Duc, get a Japanese 600. Lower maintanence and faster. R6 or newest GSXR or the Kawi. At the point you are at, you might as well simply pick your favorite color. You'll never reach the limits of any of the current crop 600s anyways. GSXR750 is probably the best overall bike period when thinking sportbike. But, coming on to a forum and asking what pick to pick is like going on a forum to ask what chick to marry... Buy what you want. You seem to have a hard on for a Duc 848. Guess what? Buy one...

I'll be racing the RC8 in MT SS... Yes, SVs are killa at Mid-Ohio and usually get a decent turn out of them for the races.

Octane boost is exactly what was described. Snake oil... If you do not believe the octane theory and run that crappy 100 octane "race fuel" at your local gas station, your wasting money and the bike will only smell different vs running better... Higher octane isn't always the answer...

How serious of a track day bike do you really want? Something cheap and easy to ride once in a while or a true weapon? I may have some things to offer you if interested...

So, had some interest and some guys wanting sets, but no money yet. Guys and gals, I need these gone to make room. I feel the prices are crazy good, but if there are reasonable offers, I am all ears. Will be out of town this weekend through mid week next week, but will be around after. Anyone interested and wanting sets, give me a shout.

That's the beauty with smokers. You are always going to have a blast. They really are an awesome thing to ride. Good luck with it and hopefully, we will meet at somewhere like Briar Cliff. If I ever get time to ride my MX bike...

By the way, the line was here around 11. However, it is south of us, but COULD skirt us by say 2pm. I am thinking we are looking good and the temps will be great. Overcast will keep the high heat away. The track should be premium with action on it prior...

No worries, man. Are they race compound? If so, you really need some warmers. If street tires or something street/track like a Q2 or Power Pure, etc., it only takes a lap - actually less... Street tires tend to heat faster and come in really well quickly. We run Q2s on our RC8s for the Race Orange events and we go hard after the first lap... Be careful and I am not condoning WFO right off. Settle in the first 2 laps and they should be fine. Race compound w/o warmers is going to take maybe two or three laps to come in well... Thus the reason to get warmers. The scrubbing in isn't needed anymore. Brand new and not even pulling the sticker (Shouldn't because the glue will get all over the inside of your warmers...) and we take the sight lap and let 'er eat!

New tires is only a good lap away from perfect. No need to sand paper tires anymore. That's an old school thing back in the 80s... One decent paced lap and they will be good to go... By the way, weather looks fine. The pocket of storms is traveling slightly SE and should miss us. I suspect it will be here around 11am and will pass through. More than enough time to dry the track out. They have cars running also and that will scrub the track if wet...

Dude, it is mis-information like this that is causing people to get the wrong idea. One, no - there WILL be 2 strokes in every major racing series. If you mean the AMA Pro Level, you are right. The reason being is the fact that the 4 strokes are REALLY good and advancement in their technology dictates that they are faster and better choices. However, any MAJOR endure series, Hare Scramble, GNCC, World Enduro, etc., etc., etc., and you will see an abundance of 2 strokes. We are 60-80% of that market and have technology that WE are working on that the others are not. That is because one, their R&D pipeline has struggled in this economy. We have R&D development well beyond years from now. We aren't like the big 4 in that we are holding back development due to lack of resources. Direct Injection is real and there is only one company really pushing hard with it. The biggest issue is the size of the package and getting it to work the way we want it to. When it comes, you'll be blown away. Guaranteed. And, when it comes, it will be a game changer 100%... But, there are MANY 2 strokes in MAJOR racing series throughout the world. And, they aren't going to vanish next season...

Completely untrue. 2-strokes are alive and kicking in both woods and MX arenas. We at KTM have an R&D pipeline running well beyond the years you feel they will die out. Now, will the Big 4 continue? Probably not. They are not focused on 2 strokes as their game plan is not centered around them. KTM on the other hand along with Husaberg, Husky, Beta, Gas-Gas, etc are still making and developing 2 strokes. Of course, we at KTM are running a little stronger and are developing new generation 2 strokes, but the idea is that they are far from going away. Now, a few things to consider. One, an MX based 2 stroke used for woods is not a good idea. You hear guys using flywheel weights to tame the hit they possess and using them in the woods. A good woods 2 stroke will outshine an MX 2 stroke with a flywheel weight... I can slap you on a 150 XC and you'll crush a 250 MX based machine... Now, go and use an XC on an MX track and the difference may be smaller depending on your riding style and ability. But, if you are a hard core MX rider and jump on an XC based machine, the difference is going to be seen in suspension and the hit needed to go fast. Bottom line is this. In your budget area, you probably cannot get a woods 2 stroke machine. You will have to settle for an MX based machine. So, you need to look at flywheel weights and consider adapting it to woods riding... But, to those that say the 2 stroke is a dying breed... Check out the line up we have for 2012... LOOOOOONG from dead.