this thread was started a year ago... This may not be the place to debate the handling issue, but I think you need to always limit evaluations to direct comparisons of two or more bikes. Ryan (Hoblick) put a LOT of time, money, and very good parts into his Harley, and was not able to get it to handle well enough to meet his expectations. His demands are no doubt different than yours, probably in part because I know he has tracked an F4i and a GSXR 600 on multiple occasions. But he has also owned a laundry list of other street bikes, including a few cruisers, which I think gives his opinion at least some weight. I think we all need to choose our words more carefully, but also not take these kind of threads so personally. We're passionate about the bikes we ride - that is good. But we need not take criticisms of machinery as personal attacks. P.S. - that Victory pictured above is pretty sweet looking, regardless of how it rides.