That's irony right there I was supposed to be trailerin' over with Mike, Al & Brian until Rich decided to offer up that 954 for Angie & Duke...... Who I was up all night drinkin' with out in the parking lot, along with a few others, right up to the time Rich got up at sunrise to ride home. I ended up crashing on Barton & Skull's floor for a few hours before heading home myself Also.... Hobie did the Loopin' Lake Michigan ride with us in '07 So were you with the guy.... Can't think of his name right now.... White guy, flat top, from OH too, ridin' a green Ninja IIRC, over checkin' out the 14 w/ the hack when Todd got back from his jaunt? It's definitely the wild, wild west over on the .org! I've been a member over there since '05, and the demographics changed a LOT in that time. Good group of people, but I've grown tired of one in particular who thinks everything's about him, monopolizes every thread, & tends to be a braggart while trying to convince others of what a modest, great guy he is Once I found this place, I started spending less & less time over there There's some truly brilliant people over there, but also a couple others who are belligerently so & need to work on their social skills & common courtesies