NinjaNick Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Ya whadda you know Craig? You only ride the track. And track riding doesn't apply to the street.You'll be just fine if he lowers it, I promise. Here's to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMN8TR Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I'm not even on blue03636's side of the argument, earlier I said go ahead and lower it but don't just slap the lowering link on and call it done. Take 10 minutes to google suspension geometry and read an R6 forum or something. Raise the front forks up/lower the triple clamps however much you lower the rear and it will be a lot better. I'm no motoGP rider either, but I've been on my cousins improperly lowered R6 and it rode like crap. On the streets. At any speed. Even the straights. I lowered the triples on the forks for him, and it was noticably better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMN8TR Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 You'll be just fine if he lowers it, I promise. Here's to that. But if I can help a brother out, I will. I hate to see people half-ass things even if they aren't my own and doesn't affect me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 When I had posted on another forum that I had stretched my zx14 I got the same bullshit replies everyone saying it was stupid and was going to ruin the handling blah blah blah.... Well I stretched it 6" which raised the rear about 3/16" which improved the handling. The ones saying it was going to ruin the handling had no experience with a stretched bike at all but they sure were certain it would ruin the handling. I rode my buddies '08 r6 before we lowered it and after we lowered it and there is no twitch, it doesn't wander, it isn't hard to push into a turn actually I think it handles a tad better now and now he can flat foot it and reverse it with ease. He said it even feels a little more planted on the highway that it doesn't feel like he gets pushed as much by wind from semis.Many sportbike riders seem to spend the night at Holiday Inn Expresses a lot, if you know what I mean (see commercial). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 It looks like the crux of the matter is; does Mr. Anderson intend to ride the R6 like the guys that designed it intended it to be ridden. If not, lowering it is a non-issue.How would you describe the intention of the makers of the r6? I got a call and a letter from them. Im just wondering what you think they want out of people riding on the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I'm not even on blue03636's side of the argument, earlier I said go ahead and lower it but don't just slap the lowering link on and call it done. Take 10 minutes to google suspension geometry and read an R6 forum or something. Raise the front forks up/lower the triple clamps however much you lower the rear and it will be a lot better. I'm no motoGP rider either, but I've been on my cousins improperly lowered R6 and it rode like crap. On the streets. At any speed. Even the straights. I lowered the triples on the forks for him, and it was noticably better.Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I'm not even on blue03636's side of the argument, earlier I said go ahead and lower it but don't just slap the lowering link on and call it done. Take 10 minutes to google suspension geometry and read an R6 forum or something. Raise the front forks up/lower the triple clamps however much you lower the rear and it will be a lot better. I'm no motoGP rider either, but I've been on my cousins improperly lowered R6 and it rode like crap. On the streets. At any speed. Even the straights. I lowered the triples on the forks for him, and it was noticably better.Exactly thats why I said lower front and rear. You can buy a digital caliper from harbor freight for like $10 then you know the forks are even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c7fx Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 That's a good point. I don't plan on hitting the twisties going 130mph like some kind of motogp pro. Its not going to be used for the track. I plan on buying a seperate track bike. I guess I will just check out some the prices and go from there. Almost slipped on some gravel at a chipotle because I had to tip toe. It was from a pot hole lol..bingo!!! this is my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 But if I can help a brother out, I will. I hate to see people half-ass things even if they aren't my own and doesn't affect me.Could you help me with this? I have seen you post about building the 675 or at least help me out. Maybe I don't need to lower it. Who knows. I don't have a problem at lights or at a stand still. I can put one foot down. Maybe pushing it back is better no matter how goofy it looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMN8TR Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I'm always willing to lend a hand. Long story short...you can lower it if you do it right and it won't mess up the handling. Is it the ideal track/race setup? No, not without a lot of other work. But you've been realistic and said you have no plans to track it so don't worry about it. Do it if it makes you more comfortable on the bike, as that is what is really important. If I were closer I'd come over and help you do it for that matter, but Cbus is a bit far. Nothing too difficult about the job itself but you'll need to figure out some way to lift the bike by the frame and take all the weight off the rear tire/swingarm. The front forks can be raised with the help of a buddy on the other handlebar. Loosen the bolts on the clamps, lower to desired height, and tighten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) I'm always willing to lend a hand. Long story short...you can lower it if you do it right and it won't mess up the handling. Is it the ideal track/race setup? No, not without a lot of other work. But you've been realistic and said you have no plans to track it so don't worry about it. Do it if it makes you more comfortable on the bike, as that is what is really important. If I were closer I'd come over and help you do it for that matter, but Cbus is a bit far. Nothing too difficult about the job itself but you'll need to figure out some way to lift the bike by the frame and take all the weight off the rear tire/swingarm. The front forks can be raised with the help of a buddy on the other handlebar. Loosen the bolts on the clamps, lower to desired height, and tighten.Ok thanks I could always ride to where you are or give you gas money but don't have the tools mentioned for this process. Maybe If I ride down we can just go from there and nothing needs to be done. Either way I'm fine and I plan on riding a lot this season. Edited April 11, 2013 by Mr Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMN8TR Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I unfortunately live in the Cleveland area full of overcrowded, flat, straight boring roads. But if you wanted to ride up with the parts some weekend, I'd be more than happy to help put a lowering link on your bike. It would take....30 minutes? I'm sure there's some guys down your way that would help too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Is it my turn now, to throw in my 2¢ worth? I'll just let you watch this...http://youtu.be/hLntOqtK-aEHere's something that was posted on another thread...http://youtu.be/kRFyw57o_Ic. Edited April 11, 2013 by JackFlash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 dude my wife is 5'3" and didn't lower her bike. and she can ride my r6 stop being a puss... and yes it will adversely effect the handling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 dude my wife is 5'3" and didn't lower her bike. and she can ride my r6 stop being a puss... and yes it will adversely effect the handlinglol yes I can ride my r6 thats not the problem here. Nothing about being a puss lol. I just value my r6. Read the post. And it wont effect the handling the way your thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) Is it my turn now, to throw in my 2¢ worth? I'll just let you watch this...http://youtu.be/hLntOqtK-aEHere's something that was posted on another thread...http://youtu.be/kRFyw57o_IcAnd one more... .youtube dont work as it is banned at workI will check it out later. Edited April 11, 2013 by Mr Anderson phone call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMN8TR Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Is it my turn now, to throw in my 2¢ worth? I'll just let you watch this...http://youtu.be/hLntOqtK-aEHere's something that was posted on another thread...http://youtu.be/kRFyw57o_IcAnd one more... .LOL at the 2nd video, that's how I used to get on my dirtbike when I was a kid. I was about 5' 1-2" riding a CR125. If I stalled it in the woods I had to make sure I was near a log or a stump so I could get up there to kick start it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 lol yes I can ride my r6 thats not the problem here. Nothing about being a puss lol. I just value my r6. Read the post. And it wont effect the handling the way your thinking about it.fine i'll go into more detail.. from some one that doesn't do just track.. my wife 5'3" has had her bike lowered in 2 settings the first was 4 inches on her CBR the thing pretty much scraped the damn road. THIS WAS BEFORE SHE EVER DID A TRACK DAY anytime she took a corner at moderate street speed meaning say the exit ramp from sawmill to 270E at about 30... she would scrap pegs that is an adverse handling reaction... the bike was always extremely hard to start to turn.. meaning at slower speeds the bike took significantly more effort to turn the bike from a stop or traffic speeds. this also means that at higher speeds your reaction time goes up.. why because of the initial effort it takes to turn the bike...second time.. we raised the bike 2 inches... now things changed the bike was easier to maneuver the bike would still scrap hard parts but honestly now at higher speeds.. mimic the same corner instead of 30 it was at about 40-45.. is that worth it to be able to back up? I mean serious just get off the damn bike and walk it back.. in the end.. Mr Anderson I don't care what you do... my answer isn't any more right or wrong that anyone elses.. I am offering an observational opinion based on real world results.. if you only want to be able to back it up for the reason of lowering good for you.. but my wife.. has no problem.. peg legging at stops.. even in high wind no issues... and then just getting off her bike when she wants to back it up and walking it into a spot.. IMO that is a better option that the possibility of dragging hard parts in the off chance to get a little froggy and hit a turn faster than normal.. or you have to avoid a dipshit cutting you off and its harder to do so..enjoy your choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I don't understand the "both of my feet don't sit flat on the ground!!!" problem. You're not even supposed to put both feet on the ground when you're on the bike. Your right foot should be on the rear brake and your left foot should be keeping the bike vertical. It's a bunch of whatthefuckery over nothing' date=' if you ask me. (which you didn't... but so what?)[/quote']^^ this^^Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I don't really have any input in this sine I ride a GSXR and have never even took a short ride on an R6. But in the end, most if not ALL of these "Track only" guys/gals have and will continue to put more miles on the street than a lot of these "street riders". Actually most could not ride a single track event for a season and still put more miles on their bike in a year than most OR members do. That being said, they are also the ones that study and research things like this not just for the track but for overal practicality.I.P., I'd say you pretty much summed up this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I don't understand the "both of my feet don't sit flat on the ground!!!" problem. You're not even supposed to put both feet on the ground when you're on the bike. Your right foot should be on the rear brake and your left foot should be keeping the bike vertical. It's a bunch of whatthefuckery over nothing' date=' if you ask me. (which you didn't... but so what?)[/quote']Yep. If you need both of your feet flat on the ground to be comfortable, sell that thing and buy a Virago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I don't really have any input in this sine I ride a GSXR and have never even took a short ride on an R6. But in the end, most if not ALL of these "Track only" guys/gals have and will continue to put more miles on the street than a lot of these "street riders". Actually most could not ride a single track event for a season and still put more miles on their bike in a year than most OR members do. That being said, they are also the ones that study and research things like this not just for the track but for overal practicality.I.P., I'd say you pretty much summed up this thread.For Real? Its a $40 part and an hour of his time to do a completely reversible mod. What is the problem with him trying it out and deciding for himself? I think we successfully made a mountain out of a molehill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 For Real? Its a $40 part and an hour of his time to do a completely reversible mod. What is the problem with him trying it out and deciding for himself? I think we successfully made a mountain out of a molehillNever said he shouldn't, just said that us "track guys" may not be as dumb as some elluded to earlier. I could care less, and like I said, I have no experience with lowering a bike, only raising the forks on my GSXR for geometry reasons.I just think it's shitty when we get talked about like we are clueless and don't ride, or only ride on the track. And I fully agree with the mtn vs molehill comment, have since this thread started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 so what kind of tires should he use for best mileage if he lowers it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 so what kind of tires should he use if he lowers it?Obviously the correct answer is Shinkos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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