wicked94s10 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 so here are a couple pictures of Arizona 191 it has left me wondering why people even talk about the Dragonthis section is 91 miles of 15 to 25 mile perhour switchbacks and edge of the cliff corners, there are no hard rails or signs on the edges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 heres a copper mine that it takes you to the top of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Because Deals Gap is not near as far away, near as hot, near as long, not in the middle of nowhere and has Fontana Village for great times when not riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 better weather due to the elevation had a high of 70 yesterday, there are as many little places in the area to stay as there are around the Dragon its only downfall is the distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drc32-0 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I just rode 191 about a month ago on me way out to California.We took a lot of the same pics.191 is an amazing road,one of the top three or four in the country,especially if you're looking for non-stop twisties!Did you see the sign...speed limit 10 mph next 11 miles?Gives you a idea of just how twisty this thing is!I went the very southern route out to California just to ride this road... and it was well worth it.A true destination highway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 yeah the signs are crazy, 15mph next 25 miles, i laughed at the 25 mile per hour speed limit until i got into the corners and realized 30 is pushing it. well worth the drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelstoker Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 You need to get to the Ozarks. Miles and miles of scenic twisties with little to no traffic or police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I rode the Ozarks on the way through to pass time, there nice but no 191.Might ride them on the way home in a week or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Moving out to az this week... I'll have to check this road out for sure.. Slow corners are one of my weak points while riding, this will give me some much needed practice too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 You need to get to the Ozarks. Miles and miles of scenic twisties with little to no traffic or police.Yes I do, and I would love some great most ride routes from ya too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary#17 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 That looks awesome but really remote. Is it as remote as it looks? Are there any cities/towns nearby to stay at? My husband and I are going to go out west and rent some bikes, just not sure where at. Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I live a few hours from there. Did you take it all the way to alpine and into NM? I can't remember the road down into NM but it makes a nice loop. It is a very remote loop and there is the possibility of hitting an elk or bear or even a big horn sheep. Depending on the time of year the road surface can be dirty due to the rains in june/July. It is extremely hot in the summer riding up there. Last time I went it was 104* when I passes the mine in morenci. The best place to stay would be alpine AZ great area. But as far as anything along the route there really isn't any food gas or lodging. Never any cops unless someone slides off the side which is pretty common. There is no room for error on that road. It is narrow with a jagged rock face on one side and a huge cliff on the other. Unlike tail of the dragon there aren't many trees to slow your decent. Not a beginner's road at all but it is pretty fun. Wicked are you still in the area? Have you rode mt. Lemmon yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Oh yeah the road used to be route 666 but people kept stealing the signs so they changed the name if you want to look it up online its sometimes referred to as the devils highway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'm in deathvalley, rented a jeep out here yesterday which was a blast. I'm headed to Yosemite later today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I came across 82 through the Lincoln national forest in New Mexico, it to is an impressive ride, I got on 191 down near the Mexico boarder and rode it up to 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I came across 82 through the Lincoln national forest in New Mexico, it to is an impressive ride, I got on 191 down near the Mexico boarder and rode it up to 40I know that area pretty well. You seem to be covering a lot of ground though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Just out for a cruise, i try average 300-500 miles per day. I'm over at Yosemite at the casino, tomorrow I'm heading back to Vegas for a night then to the grand canyon, monument valley, the four corners then it might be time to head home. We're about 3000 miles out at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drc32-0 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Just out for a cruise, i try average 300-500 miles per day. I'm over at Yosemite at the casino, tomorrow I'm heading back to Vegas for a night then to the grand canyon, monument valley, the four corners then it might be time to head home. We're about 3000 miles out at this pointI just got home from my western trip last night...9400 miles in 5 weeks.I mainly stayed up in the mountains between the Golden Gate,Yerka and Eureka.It was awful tough going through Utah and not hitting 191 in the Flaming Gorge area or the Devil's backbone down south,but it was time to head home.Are the passes open in the Sierras yet?If it's open and you're still in the area 180 into King's Canyon would be a fun little side trip on your way over to Vegas.Enjoy the rest of your ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 the passes are still closed so I rode around the sierras and took 41 into yosimite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 tioga and glacier pass are closed, im on 180 now headed to 198 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 looks nice but not that curvy for a sportbike romp. the harley crowd has ruined deals gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 looks nice but not that curvy for a sportbike romp. the harley crowd has ruined deals gap.What road are you referring to as not curvy? What road do you know of that's more curvy than AZ191? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) it just doesn't really look all that from those few pics. I could be wrong. it's curves look more flowing and long than tight and back to back like that gap is.I would rather take a touring bike through that than my R6 is what I'm seeing in the pics. Edited May 3, 2013 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOoTeR Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 It's mostly switch backs. There are signs that say 10mph for the next 25 miles. Then it starts to open up its a very curvy road and challenging. It's greatest aspect is its remote location means that it is never crowded and always quiet. But unlike the Dragon there are no food or gas stations on the way. Also there aren't any surrounding roads like the Dragon where the oads around it that are fun to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked94s10 Posted May 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 http://excessivelocity.blogspot.com/2009/05/arizona-191-old-666-devils-highway.html?m=1there is a review of the road with more detail, the road has very few pull offs and no stops for 91 miles so pictures are limited but way more corners than the Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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