ohiomike Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Norman Gurley arrested in Ohio for having empty hidden compartment in car "LORAIN COUNTY, Ohio -- A man was arrested in Ohio Wednesday for having a hidden compartment in his car.The kicker? The compartment was empty.Norman Gurley, 30, was arrested by state troopers in Northeast Ohio after being pulled over on the turnpike in Lorain County........" http://www.wcpo.com/news/state/state-ohio/norman-gurley-arrested-in-ohio-for-having-empty-hidden-compartment-in-car 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) I think the law is well written. http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_SB_305 Edited November 25, 2013 by Tigerpaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I thought this wasn't new at all. Also I'm pretty sure it has to be a modified hidden compartment. Anything stock would not be illegal, like the new Corvette's not so secret compartment behind the A/V screen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) I'm not sure this will stand up to constitutional challenges. I feel like this is really just a means of facilitating lazy police work, and making it illegal to modify your car in a suspicious, but not inherently criminal manner... Edited November 25, 2013 by redkow97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 It says with intent to use for hiding drugs... My bet is they found the compartment, and brought in a drug dog that probably smelled drug residue in it... Those dogs can smell drugs weeks sometimes months after they have been removed from a compartment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I think the law is well written. http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_SB_305 I have to agree, the needed exceptions are written in and every time it says the compartments intent is to haul illegal drugs around. Proving that intent will be hard, as it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 so they can arrest you and impound your vehicle until they decide whether or not they can prove intent? I don't like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I thought this wasn't new at all. Also I'm pretty sure it has to be a modified hidden compartment. Anything stock would not be illegal, like the new Corvette's not so secret compartment behind the A/V screen This, It's not new, and has exception I... (I) This section does not apply to a box, safe, container, or other item added to a vehicle for the purpose of securing valuables, electronics, or firearms provided that at the time of discovery the box, safe, container, or other item added to the vehicle does not contain a controlled substance or visible residue of a controlled substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 How about we stop with the "drugs are bad, m'kay" bullshit and focus on actual societal woes. I think some of them are intertwined. Certainly some robberies and B&E's are to feed drug habits. And certainly much of the gang wars are over drug turf. Legalizing pot is one thing, legalizing meth or heroin is another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I think some of them are intertwined. Certainly some robberies and B&E's are to feed drug habits. And certainly much of the gang wars are over drug turf. Legalizing pot is one thing, legalizing meth or heroin is another. So you're saying legalizing meth would mean significantly more people start using? I'm not convinced that would be the case. And even if it were, greater meth production would drive costs down, and require less burglaries and robberies, no? Plus it would make a bunch of meth cooks legitimate (theoretically tax-paying) business-owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Legalizing pot is one thing, legalizing meth or heroin is another. Why should you give a shit what someone else puts into their own body? Edited November 25, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 So you're saying legalizing meth would mean significantly more people start using? I'm not convinced that would be the case. And even if it were, greater meth production would drive costs down, and require less burglaries and robberies, no? Plus it would make a bunch of meth cooks legitimate (theoretically tax-paying) business-owners. Never said that. But it certainly wouldn't go down, and they certainly wouldn't be able to pay for it any easier. Plus all the cartel members and gang bangers selling it would be broke, so they would have to rob people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Where'm I gonna hide the coke now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Where'm I gonna hide the coke now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Where'm I gonna hide the coke now? In a factory installed compartment, Like a spare tire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I don't know about you, but I hide my cocaine up my nose. Too obvious for me... my nose is HUGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdubyah Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 If the hidden compartment was factory installed I would be a little more concerned. The hidden compartment in the fellas vehicle had to be manipulated in a particular order to open it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Where'm I gonna hide the coke now?Inside the hookers. Cops never look there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 If the hidden compartment was factory installed I would be a little more concerned. The hidden compartment in the fellas vehicle had to be manipulated in a particular order to open it.This. It had a sophisticated electronic lock that operated by you manipulating factory dash controls in a certain order ie: radio preset 2, heat on, ac on etc in perfect order. While there is no evidence supporting it, it's pretty apparent that he was hiding drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) so you dont have any drugs on you, but the cops still need something to arrest you on since they cant arrest you for not having any drugs... makes sense. the cops absolutely need more reasons to lock people up when they dont really have any reason to lock them up on in the first place. sounds like they are doing great police work! Edited November 25, 2013 by John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) The law was not written to bust/harass bottom-level users. It was meant to stop distribution. Why are people so anti-police? They enforce the laws, not write them. Edited November 25, 2013 by Tigerpaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Why should you give a shit what someone else puts into their own body? Love the addicts, great job security for my Wife and I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Mostly, because they're cunts. However, I'm not anti-police in this thread. I'm pro-drug use and distribution. Edited November 26, 2013 by Tigerpaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'd be all for hard drug legalization if it didn't affect children. I could give a shit what dick and Jane junkie do with their bodies but their use affects their children and that's fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't know what legalization of drugs would do to the US. Could be good or bad. We probably won't find out any time soon. I just know cops have a job to do. They don't tell me how to do mine, and I don't tell them how to do theirs. I also don't get butthurt if I get ticketed/arrested for doing something I knew was illegal. If you don't like the laws...change them. The law in this post helps enforce other bigger laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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