Pokey Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 If it is somebody that I regularly ride with in a group and know their skill set and habits, I have no problem with us all passing and changing positions. Of course I am not a big fan of group rides, therefore it is usually never more than 4 of us together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 On the group rides I've been on we had agreed on the order when we all set out and it generally stays the same until the next gas stop. I guess I was unclear...If you try and pass me in a way that creates a dangerous situation ie: in a blind curve, on one wheel, etc.. you won't be thought of kindly.And yes, you have to buy us all chicken wings before we will like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Different groups look at passing differently. This should be a pre-ride conversation, especially when riding with unfamiliar riders. I'll always wave a faster rider ahead. And if they are faster, I want to see their technique anyway. I don't mind getting passed as long as it's not too close or a surprise. There are a few exceptions, and those are the guys I've ridden with for years. I can trust their ability and judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekClouser Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I knew you'd get it pauly...you get all my obscure references...maybe because you also watch too much tv and enjoy a wide range of music.As far as fighting for the front, you're a fucking idiot OP. You ride against your friends on the track, ride with them on the street. I get it, you're 23...hopefully you're not a squid...but if you try and pass me on a group ride without me signaling you to do so, you're going to get stomped on. We ride for fun here, and people who do stupid shit and endanger other riders need not apply. I remember passing you spaghetti through a straight as we passed a mini-cooper that decided he wanted to show how big his penis was and try to turn the road into a race track and wouldn't let me get in behind you, but I only passed you for my safety, and then signaled for you to pass me... You didn't seem to mad, glad I didn't get 'spaghetti'ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Z. Heimer Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I tried to pass a Kia Sportage once. I failed. He was a Baller. I just balled. ???? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I remember passing you spaghetti through a straight as we passed a mini-cooper that decided he wanted to show how big his penis was and try to turn the road into a race track and wouldn't let me get in behind you, but I only passed you for my safety, and then signaled for you to pass me... You didn't seem to mad, glad I didn't get 'spaghetti'ed. Yeah that guy was a dick. If I had known he was going to try and race a liter bike with a fucking clown car I would have kept accelerating after I passed him and given you more room behind me. In this case you did what you had to do because captain Cooper created an unsafe situation. That's why you didn't taste my noodely wrath lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earache Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I tried to pass a Kia Sportage once. I failed. He was a Baller. I just balled. Same here - I'm not fast enough to pass anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 if i feel like the rider in front of me is holding me back, i have no problem passing them....all passes are as clean and safe as possible, and only in straights, with a slow closing distance....if anyone has a problem with it, i really dont give a fuck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 We all know you don't give a fuck steve.The rides I've been on usually organized themselves based on skill. Guys who know they're fast up front, guys who are kind of fast in the middle, humble riders towards the end and an experienced guy riding sweep. Last ride I was on I was at the front of the middle. The guy behind me, gunner75, belonged in the back. Twice he almost hit me or haphazardly passed me because he was trying to push his ninja 650 too hard in the straits to keep up with the liters. We would put a huge gap in the group, he would run the balls off his bike in the straits and at the next curve he would be either up my ass or next to me. At one curve he went so wide he said 'fuck it', got lucky and went up some guys driveway...ahead of me and across the double yellow. That dude sketched me out, I'm not in my mirrors all the time, I like having an entire lane to operate within. I guess what I'm trying to say is if I'm holding you up and you need to pass, do so in the oncoming lane safely...I think it's past my bedtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I make total dick move passes, usually on one wheel. Because I can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Where's the fun in passing if it's not in a curve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 You guys are all squidly unorganized dicks! Delete my account!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Lol...3 beers and some sleep deprivation and I ramble on like a drunk toddler. Pauly if I had been carrying just a little more speed and had wings I totally would have taken you in that ditch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior62 Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Again, I like this guy. In a non homo way. Agreed, the ability to take a joke in stride is refreshing! He passes. He gets our sick humor, that is a rarity! Thanks! I'll be here all week;) Depending on you goals as a rider, you may want to rethink the Club thing. If you really want to learn how to ride that 1000RR, you aren't going to do it bar hopping in formation wearing a vest. Plus most skilled street & track riders (that have tons of riding knowledge) probably aren't going to join you. Kinda of like you, I have a large group of old friends. None of them like to ride the way I do. So, I found a group that likes sport bikes at hyper legal speeds and they're skilled enough to do it without crashing. We ride every weekend the weather allows. We ride uber twisty backroads. It's ridiculous fun. Beats the hell out of formation rides Wow for 23 I'm impressed. Let me give you a little nugget though. Everything you want and state you are looking for can all be done without a club. When I started riding I had zero friends who rode. Almost 5 years of being a forum member and I bet I have at least 30 friends I met through this forum. You don't need no stinkin club!Also, ride with the right guys and your skill level will develop 10 foldLastly, "fighting for the front" for any group ride is about the worst idea ever and will surely result in some serious wrecks. So in the interest of fellow motorcyclist safety, please rethink that You sir have made some valid points & I thoroughly enjoyed the video evidence! that is definitely moreso what I am looking to get involved in. Where might be the best place to start? I am hoping to get on the track for the first time (on a sportbike) this summer.Regarding the "fighting for the front" comment, I was just puffing my chest I am a aggressive but cautious rider, with still a lot to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) You sir have made some valid points & I thoroughly enjoyed the video evidence! that is definitely moreso what I am looking to get involved in. Where might be the best place to start? I am hoping to get on the track for the first time (on a sportbike) this summer.SE Ohio and WV have some amazing roads for sport bikes. If you're willing to ride a few hundred miles in a day, you may just find sport bike Nirvana. When the weather cooperates there will be plenty of group rides posted. There's a good number of seasoned ride leaders that post on this board, with plenty of knowledge about riding/motorcycles/routes. Get some gear if you don't already have it. Helmet, armored jacket, gloves, and over the ankle boots at a minimum. Armored pants or a riding suit are a really good idea, too. Learn proper riding/cornering technique. Watch this DVD or read the book. Everything you need to know about sport riding is in here http://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Vol-High-Performance-Motorcycle/dp/0965045021Another good source http://www.sportrider.com/motorcycle_riding/techniques/Do a trackdayPick the brains of veteran riders Don't be one of the guys that wants to show everyone how fast he is, only to crash on your first group ride...never to return. There have been too many of those guys to count. No matter how good of a rider you are or how fast your bike is, there will always be someone better, faster, smoother. Leave the ego at home. Use it as an opportunity to to learn. Ask questions at gas stops, ask someone to follow you though the corners to give feedback, etc. And read this: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/flashback/122_0911_the_pace_nick_ienatsch/ I'm sure others will chime in with stuff I didn't mention... Edited January 20, 2014 by Tpoppa 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Come to Coshocton with Hutch and I, as long as you listen to our warning talk before the ride you'll have a great day. If you don't, you'll find yourself under a guard rail or in the woods somewhere. This is common knowledge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 "Fighting for the front" on our ride is also encouraged, but not from newbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxHooligan Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Or you'll end up in that persons yard where you crest the hill into a turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yea, that's happened like 7 times now. All from guys that were warned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxHooligan Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I know I was there for one of those times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) We need a tee shirt with "I Survived" and a column of check boxes on the back. Just use a sharpie to check off the ones you haven't crash on:CoshoctonHocking HillsMohican555Little DragonDragon's Tailetc Required to cross out any you later dump it on... edit: umm, just a thought, some need a tee shirt that says "I didn't survive" and check boxes.... Edited January 20, 2014 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Haven crashed on any of those, but I did have the rear slide out in Coshocton. It was near the dam and I found some sand at a decent lean. Scared the ever living shit out of me.Everyone should know how to throw it sideways and enjoy it. Makes it so much easier to survive when it happens without warning. Yeah, that means get a dirt bike... I power slid sideways pulling into morning traffic on a cold road. Quick juggle the power and balance. Yeah, as usual, scared the crap out of the cars around me. I rather enjoyed it. Couldn't back off, there were cars coming at me. Well, ok, I could have aborted up the middle turn lane... edit: Yes, I'm too old for that crap. Edited January 20, 2014 by ReconRat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior62 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 SE Ohio and WV have some amazing roads for sport bikes. If you're willing to ride a few hundred miles in a day, you may just find sport bike Nirvana. When the weather cooperates there will be plenty of group rides posted. There's a good number of seasoned ride leaders that post on this board, with plenty of knowledge about riding/motorcycles/routes. Get some gear if you don't already have it. Helmet, armored jacket, gloves, and over the ankle boots at a minimum. Armored pants or a riding suit are a really good idea, too. Learn proper riding/cornering technique. Watch this DVD or read the book. Everything you need to know about sport riding is in here http://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Vol-High-Performance-Motorcycle/dp/0965045021Another good source http://www.sportrider.com/motorcycle_riding/techniques/Do a trackdayPick the brains of veteran riders Don't be one of the guys that wants to show everyone how fast he is, only to crash on your first group ride...never to return. There have been too many of those guys to count. No matter how good of a rider you are or how fast your bike is, there will always be someone better, faster, smoother. Leave the ego at home. Use it as an opportunity to to learn. Ask questions at gas stops, ask someone to follow you though the corners to give feedback, etc. And read this: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/flashback/122_0911_the_pace_nick_ienatsch/ I'm sure others will chime in with stuff I didn't mention...Please excuse my untimely reply, been swamped...Sportbike nirvana is exactly what I'm looking for. No doubt, you'll find me at some rides and the track this riding season. In addition to the gear, which I'm pretty much have, I'll be bringing along with me a list of questions if you don't mind.In regards to Twist of the Wrist II, since your recommendation, I've listened to the video probably around 7 times now lol and will be quick to admit just how much I've learned. I strongly second your recommendation of this material... Any new riders out there, this is a must! Tpoppa, cant thank you enough for the advice. I owe you a brew!ICome to Coshocton with Hutch and I, as long as you listen to our warning talk before the ride you'll have a great day. If you don't, you'll find yourself under a guard rail or in the woods somewhere. This is common knowledge. "Fighting for the front" on our ride is also encouraged, but not from newbs Count me in! I'll pm you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Tpoppa is a good guy and very good rider, listen to him. If you ride in cershockton don't come on a katana it means you will crash LOL! Put in some miles and do lots of rides and it will come to you after awhile. And keep riding or it will get rusty to you like it has to me. I use to be fast but now have taken to much time off and am to leery to push it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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