Tpoppa Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2014/02/honda-introduces-2014-cbr650f-and-interceptor-800-for-u-s-market/ Both look interesting for those that like longs days of riding twisty backroads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 The 650 looks like a near identical rip off of the 2012-2014 Ninja 650.I'd consider the vfr if the makes version gets here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) ^^The CBR650F is an I4. I kinda wish the VFR800 didn't have VTEC. I was never a fan. Either way it'll probably sell better than the VFR1200. Edited February 4, 2014 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'm not surprised with the VFR but I am a little surprised on the 650R but glad to see both for sure!There is a lot to like about the new VFR if you're not a current 6th gen owner. Then there is just a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Those look like fun machines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 And they're both "live" on Honda's website! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Also new on the site is the new CB1100 with a new DLX version. My two favorite Hondas, though I'll most likely keep the sixth gen VFR. The standard, old style CB is a good fit for me now, even if it is a little heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 If the new VFR had gear driven cams it would be perfect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I know I am overlooking 15 years of suspension, chassis, brake, and fuel injection development, but the power & weight stats on the CBR650 look oddly familiar ...because they are virtually identical to the katana 750CBR is 86hp and 465lbs. Kat 750 is 92hp and 465lbs. Both make peak power at 11k rpm. Torque figures are also very close, although without looking at the Kat's specs, I would guess the CBR has a more user-friendly torque curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilD'oh! Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I rented a gen 6 VFR in Sydney last year and was impressed. I'd consider a '14 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 ^^The CBR650F is an I4. I kinda wish the VFR800 didn't have VTEC. I was never a fan. Either way it'll probably sell better than the VFR1200.Visually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) I know I am overlooking 15 years of suspension, chassis, brake, and fuel injection development, but the power & weight stats on the CBR650 look oddly familiar ...because they are virtually identical to the katana 750CBR is 86hp and 465lbs.Kat 750 is 92hp and 465lbs.Both make peak power at 11k rpm. Torque figures are also very close, although without looking at the Kat's specs, I would guess the CBR has a more user-friendly torque curve Are the weight figures for the cbr 'curb weight' and for the Kat the old fictitious weight without battery, tires, or any fliuds? Edited February 5, 2014 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakemono Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 I love the CBR650F. If I had $9K burning a hole in my pocket, there would be a 650F in my garage very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinoisrider90 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 The 650 looks like a near identical rip off of the 2012-2014 Ninja 650.I'd consider the vfr if the makes version gets hereninja 650 is a twin big brother to the ex500, cbr650f is an I4, detuned 600rr with more low end. better for commuting than the supersports much more comfortable ride ordering a vfr soon i think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskeyes Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 And they're both "live" on Honda's website! And they're both already in dealers. Saw both at Comp Acc a couple weeks ago and the VFR suffers from butter face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) ninja 650 is a twin big brother to the ex500, cbr650f is an I4, detuned 600rr with more low end. better for commuting than the supersports much more comfortable ride ordering a vfr soon i think! Sounds perfect. Seems like Honda needed something for people who wanted more than a CBR500 but not a supersport cbr600rr. Enter the cbr650, perfect. Shame I'm not in the market for a new bike, and am only looking to buy used. Edited July 29, 2014 by Josh1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I sat on a CBR650 in a showroom. I could live with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 ninja 650 is a twin big brother to the ex500, cbr650f is an I4, detuned 600rr with more low end. better for commuting than the supersports much more comfortable ride ordering a vfr soon i think!visually. High swing arm for low exhaust. Tall tank. Slightly.downward pitched nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskeyes Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) I just don't get the point on the VFR of a putting a single-side swingarm on a bike then installing a dumb looking exhaust can to cover it up. Plus looking at the arrangement, you're going to have to disassemble half of the RH side of the bike to get the rear tire off. Exhaust, exhaust hanger, maybe fairing to get the bolts that hold the hangar on... Edited July 30, 2014 by blueskeyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Plus looking at the arrangement, you're going to have to disassemble half of the RH side of the bike to get the rear tire off. Exhaust, exhaust hanger, maybe fairing to get the bolts that hold the hangar on... It's actually just like changing the wheel on a car. Remove the 5 lug nuts and it comes right off. It's much simpler than a wheel change on a normal swingarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I just don't get the point on the VFR of a putting a single-side swingarm on a bike then installing a dumb looking exhaust can to cover it up.True enough. That rear wheel is a beauty. You might see some high mount kits from the aftermarket but the design of the bike looks like it'll have some nice integrated luggage coming soon. That'll cover up those partly anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 My cb has an exhaust setup similar.. Sucks hiding part of the sssa but still looks nicer than standard, chain adjustments take 30 seconds and done on side stand, and the rear wheel takes less than 2 minutes to pull.. Just have to slide can off (stock had 1 clamp and bolt for hanger, my yoshi just has 2 springs and one bolt for hanger) awesome setup imo and maintenance is a breeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) True enough. That rear wheel is a beauty. You might see some high mount kits from the aftermarket but the design of the bike looks like it'll have some nice integrated luggage coming soon. That'll cover up those partly anyway.I bet Honda figures that 50% of the market is going to dump the stock exhaust can no matter what, so they design the cheapest legal option to get the bike out the door. As a btw, the 5th gen exhaust cans bolt directly to the 8th gen and visa versa. Cool! I admit I went and looked at one, and its quite an attractive bike. I like it, but for the damn VTEC.-- Maybe there might be a future 5/8ths VFR coming to my garage in the future. Edited July 30, 2014 by mello dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I dunno how the new ones are with the vtec but my pciii pretty much got rid of the abruptness of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskeyes Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 My cb has an exhaust setup similar.. Sucks hiding part of the sssa but still looks nicer than standard, chain adjustments take 30 seconds and done on side stand, and the rear wheel takes less than 2 minutes to pull.. Just have to slide can off (stock had 1 clamp and bolt for hanger, my yoshi just has 2 springs and one bolt for hanger) awesome setup imo and maintenance is a breeze I will never doubt the ease of rear wheel/chain maintenance with a sssa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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