bloodninja420 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 The Pony is running a pretty good deal ($160 for set of front and rear) on BT-023s, and Im considering picking some up. Has anyone run these? I am wondering how they might compare to Michelin's sport-tourers, and if Michelin would be worth the premium. For reference my street riding involves commuting on straight roads, and 60 miles of slab to get to any twisties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I have been running the Michelin Pilot Road 3s for nearly 20k miles, and I really like them. I have a brand new set of Michelin Pilot Road 4 sitting in the garage. I am hoping to get to Hobs next Sunday to get them mounted.My bike is larger and heavier, so these may not be the optimal tire for your bike.The Pilot Roads came highly recommended on a Concours riding forum, and I couldn't be happier. My bike had the stock Bridgestone BT021s when I got it, and they were terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) My stock tires are also Bridgestone, bt015... Not sure what you ride, but I get a lot of tire spin if I run over any smooth surfaces or odd transitions in the roadway (passing over double yellows etc)... The tires just feel very lacking... Can't wait to dump them for something else, but they're lasting forever lol.... I won't buy Bridgestone anything anymore Edited April 7, 2014 by Steve Butters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ran them on my triumph sprint st. Once they warmed up , they were fine, but when they were cold , they slipped and spun pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaler Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I have run many sets of BT023 on my Yamaha FZ1 and they are great tires! I went back to back with Michelin Pilot Road 2 and the Bridgestone is every bit as good if not better. Factor in price and there is no comparison on which is a better value.Steve...never compair an OEM version of a tire to the afterarket version. There is no comparison, as they are built specific to each OEM to hit a cost point. One OEM of same model tire can be very different to another OEM of the same model.A bike i bought came with Dunlop Qualifier 2 tires OEM, and they were horrible in every conceivable way...rode same bike with aftermarket Q2's and it was night and day...the tire profiles were so different you could see it with out looking for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 For Sport Touring tires, Pirelli Angel GTs are about as good as it gets. Michelin Pilot Road 2, 3, or 4 are also really good. I've never been a fan of Bridgestone, but I would take them over Dunlops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 For Sport Touring tires, Pirelli Angel GTs are about as good as it gets. Michelin Pilot Road 2, 3, or 4 are also really good.I've never been a fan of Bridgestone, but I would take them over Dunlops.I always felt the Pirelli angel gt were the best as well. That was until I tried the pr3s. The Pirelli is right there with them, but in wet conditions the pr3s take the cake.Sent while riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 +1 for angle gt's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) I always felt the Pirelli angel gt were the best as well. That was until I tried the pr3s. The Pirelli is right there with them, but in wet conditions the pr3s take the cake.Sent while riding The PR3 and now PR4 are probably the best in wet. The PR2 lasts a bit longer than the PR3. I think the Angel GT is the best for long life and dry grip...but honestly any of PRs or the GT are really, really good. Edited April 7, 2014 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I will agree with that. I forgot to mention in my previous post also, I had the 023 on my bike from the factory I believe. They lasted no more than 2k, and I hated every second of that 2k miles. Sent while riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 My stock tires are also Bridgestone, bt015... Not sure what you ride, but I get a lot of tire spin if I run over any smooth surfaces or odd transitions in the roadway (passing over double yellows etc)... The tires just feel very lacking... Can't wait to dump them for something else, but they're lasting forever lol.... I won't buy Bridgestone anything anymoreYup original tires on the VFR and hated them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Absolute garbage on any of the sport touring bikes, but seem to be fine on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I can attest to Angel GTs...two track days and 4500 miles later- they will last me this whole season. I'm a total pirelli fan boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodninja420 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Poor reviews. Thanks, I'll look elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I can attest to Angel GTs...two track days and 4500 miles later- they will last me this whole season. I'm a total pirelli fan boy. Any grip issues on the track? I've pushed them hard on the street. I can get the rear to go into a controlled slide around 34 psi. I'm sure I could get more grip with lower pressure, but it would cost some tire life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINK Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 dustinsn3485, If you were referring to the stock tires on the 2011 Ninja 1000, they were Bridgestone BT016's, and I agree, terrible, with short life on that bike. I switched to the 023's, I liked them better than the stock 16's, but they wore out, and got slippery in much less time than I expected. If I were to go back to an ST style tire, I think Pirelli or Michelin would be my choice, as the others have mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 another pirelli ST fanboy here.. went from Diablo strada to angel ST and then I tried the Avon Storm ST's...Going back to Angels...GT this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporttour Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I have a set of BT023s on my ST1100 at present. Only a couple thousand miles on them so far. I formerly used Avon Storm tires. The Avons were superior in the wet and in cold temperatures; unfortunately the dual compound led to an odd wear pattern on the front that created head shake. I like the Bridgestones but expect to get only 8 - 10k out of them (hopefully) compared to 12k+ with the Avons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) The Avons were superior in the wet and in cold temperatures; unfortunately the dual compound led to an odd wear pattern on the front that created head shake. I suspect the same happened to my XX I have head shake under deceleration...hopefully just the tires screwing with me as opposed to head bearings or something more serious. Edited April 8, 2014 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I can get the rear to go into a controlled slide around 34 psi. prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 prove it. Meet me on rt 78, right before the high speed sweepers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 dustinsn3485, If you were referring to the stock tires on the 2011 Ninja 1000, they were Bridgestone BT016's, and I agree, terrible, with short life on that bike.Ahh, 16's. I couldn't remember, if it was that or the 23. I've ran the 23's once on my old zx6r I use to own then. They were a little better, I still lacked all the confidence in the world on them. On the 6 I ran exclusively Pirelli's because they wore so well on that bike. This 1000 seems to eat tires, doesn't matter if it's the pr3 or the angel. I've only tried the ST though in fairness, may give the GT a chance if the cost is worth it. I'm really biased toward the Michelin at this point though.Sent while riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 The Angel series is better than the Pilots in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Any grip issues on the track?I've pushed them hard on the street. I can get the rear to go into a controlled slide around 34 psi. I'm sure I could get more grip with lower pressure, but it would cost some tire life.I ran them at 30/30 , checked pressure before each session. Never a hint of a slip. Running the "fast" novice group at putnam my last day, they never missed a beat, and I'm not real gentle on the throttle coming out of corners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailwood Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 I've run BT023's on my FZ1 for several years now and have never had any issues with the grip or the wear rate. I only really used them in heavy rain once, but they seemed fine. I'm actually getting ready to put the T30's (BT023 replacement) on the rear of my R1 with an S20 front and I don't expect to have any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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