Calinazaret Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I can lean as far as I need to in right hand turns, but I panic for left. My tires are worn to the edge on the right side but I've got like an inch wide chicken strip on the other side; even my friend who doesn't ride motorcycles noticed it. Is this common? How can I get passed it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Mental. All mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's all mental, we all have sides that we favor. The only way to fix it is to work on the left hand corners. Find a section of road where you can fully see through the left handers so the fear of a car coming isn't an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 There's those round abouts in Dubln and Gahanna, turn lap after lap on em when there's no traffic lol. I love the one by Attack Painters house. Everytime I'm by there I do laps on it with my knee on the curb till cars come lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Because you're working the throttle and therefore putting pressure on the throttle side right bar you may be more effectively counter steering in right hand turns. I've seen it before. Try adding a little extra forward pressure to the left bar for left turns. By any chance are you worried about running wide on left handers and double apexing? I've seen that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 The fear of the yellow line will also cause this, nobody wants to go left of center, your mind has been programmed never to do it, so subconsciously you shy away from really tipping it in on lefties... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calinazaret Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 There's those round abouts in Dubln and Gahanna, turn lap after lap on em when there's no traffic lol.Cool, I'll give this a try :-DBy any chance are you worried about running wide on left handers and double apexing? I've seen that, too.What I sometimes do is hit the apex way too early and hug the curve all the way around, sometimes overcompensating, blowing wide and then just generally being all over the road. I think it has to do with feeling farther away from the throttle when I lean left but idk. The fear of the yellow line will also cause this, nobody wants to go left of center, your mind has been programmed never to do it, so subconsciously you shy away from really tipping it in on lefties...Makes sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sign up for an Advanced Rider Course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojocho Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sign up for track day.Righties are my preference too. Track days helped cure that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Also, don't forget that on the street, right hand turns have a smaller turn radius. Roadways are aligned by centerline. A track day would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calinazaret Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Also, don't forget that on the street, right hand turns have a smaller turn radius. Roadways are aligned by centerline. A track day would be helpful.Hmm, I never thought of that. Yeah I need to do a track day. But I'll be leaving the country in less than a month so it doesn't make sense at this point to invest in the gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Your left and right arms may be fighting each other forcontrol of your steering. This book will read in Englishno matter which country you move to. Total Control -- High Performance Street Riding Techniquesby Lee Parks. http://www.amazon.com/Total-Control-Performance-Street-Techniques/dp/0760314039 Chapter 2...Steering.....page 17 Steering Technique"It is my ardent belief that when cornering, you shoulduse only your inside arm to steer...." Read the book. It will help anyone to ride better andto understand more about the how's and why's of whata motorcycle does when we try to make it do what wewant it to do. Go right to page 21 on the book preview at the link above.You can read it there without buying the book. . . Edited July 22, 2014 by JackFlash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekClouser Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) I had the exact same problem. I felt incredibly comfortable on right handers and felt nervous on left handers which caused me to have more problems. The three things that I realized that cause this. I wasn't looking far enough through the turn which hurt my confidence and sped things up. Remember to look through as far through the turn, it takes some practice, but with time you'll be able to look through the corner and maintain good corner positioning with your peripheral vision. Second thing, when you go right you can easily relax your left hand because you are using right hand to throttle, but when you go left, you have to use your left to counter steer but maintain your throttle hand so it's easy to be too firm with the throttle hand which makes it feel harder to go through the corner going left. Relax your arms and make sure they are loose. That really helped me going left and right also, but more so left. And the final thing I noticed when I struggled left was my body positioning. I was able to get a comfortable riding position through right corners which gave me extra confidence in case of a road hazard I could get lower or maneuver quickly, but going left, I struggled getting into the correct body position, so I didn't feel that same escape position in case something happened. Changing those three things for me allowed me to feel much more confident going left. Edited July 22, 2014 by DerekClouser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 correct body position will help this because on a left turnyour right knee has to be locked into the tank. and your right arm should be across the tank. this doesnt allow it to move as easy with the throttle as in a right hand corner where you throttle hand is very close to your body... JMHO take it for what its worth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Turn with inside arm. Upper body relaxed. Push off peg with the outside leg. I find I have to constantly remind myself of this for right handers though. I also stopped trying to lean over the tank and keep a more upright position while still leaning ahead of the bike. Also a bit I took away from golf. If you're in the middle of a game (spirited ride/ track) don't try to alter how your playing/riding and just keep going. Its called practice for a reason. And the more you try to change your form the more frustrated you'll get and your game will suffer or as the case of a motorcycle, you'll probably crash. And abondon parking lot is great for practicing riding. If you can control your body at sub 30mph speeds you can do it at normal speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Turn with inside arm. Upper body relaxed. Push off peg with the outside leg. I find I have to constantly remind myself of this for right handers though. I also stopped trying to lean over the tank and keep a more upright position while still leaning ahead of the bike. Also a bit I took away from golf. If you're in the middle of a game (spirited ride/ track) don't try to alter how your playing/riding and just keep going. Its called practice for a reason. And the more you try to change your form the more frustrated you'll get and your game will suffer or as the case of a motorcycle, you'll probably crash. And abondon parking lot is great for practicing riding. If you can control your body at sub 30mph speeds you can do it at normal speedI don't know where to begin with this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I don't know where to begin with this.Is that so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Ever read the upper half of the motorcycle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dying Shadow Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 A trackday is more like a driving range if you want to stick with the golf thing. Either way, you need to work on things riding at about 80% of your regular pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Ever read the upper half of the motorcycle?nope. You learn more on the track than in the library. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Will you be riding overseas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Where are all of Brian's threads with tips and tricks?Track day for the win.Controlled environment: no animals, no cars, clean asphalt, medics, CR's, many willing to help and watch what you are doing, list goes on... Edited July 24, 2014 by snot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaler Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 nope. You learn more on the track than in the library.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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