Gixxus Christ! Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Long story. I'll keep it short for now because it's late. The company I work for is shrinking. More layoffs this week after closing an entire plant last year. Recently I met the owner of a company that manufacturers high end commercial brewing systems and he asked for a resume. His company is 3 years old but has grown from him in a garage to 50,000 square feet and 20 employees in 3 years. I've been with my current employer ten years. His wages and benefits are commensurate with what I'm making minus a matched 401k. Honestly I'm a bit afraid to take the leap. Hard to give up relative security. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Career moves are always tough stuff, I have had to work those out myself. I dont have the answer, but suggest look at some questions.. - Is your present company in a growth industry or pulling back? - You mentioned layoffs, why is that going on when the economy is booming? - Where do you think the present company will be in 5 years? - Are you bored stiff or disgusted with you present job. For the beer job.. - Craft beers industry is booming and in demand, ask the owner what are your 2 year and 5 year plans? - Is he planning to build the biz then sell out, or is he wanting to stay for the long haul? - For a fact, in a smaller company, you have to wear many more hats and be flexible. Is that something you can stomach? - Ask the owner, what would your plans for me be if I join your company? - Ask what is you biggest problem that you face today for the company? - If you dont go to the beer job, will you be kicking yourself in a year? Dunno what to add, but sit down and add more questions like this, maybe bounce it of your wife or good friend. I'm in my present job for 2 1/2 years, but prior that, I had 4 jobs that were flat out stinkers. None of those turned out to be like what the interview indicated....... Best of luck CSC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 present company is doing everything it can to end all manufacturing operations in akron. they've built plants in kentucky and mexico to do the commercial stuff but we still have govt defense contracts that mandate things be made here in the akron facility. to make matters worse, the guys that were just laid off this week, rumor is the H.R. dept is fucking them out of their contract-guaranteed severance packages. if that's true, I really need to gtfo of here. company obviously doesnt care about the community or even it's own employees. I understand and support capitalism, but for a company to break contract just to save a few thousand dollars seems just...fucking low. So it's time to sharpen my resume and see what this brew equipment manufacturer has to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 So your continued employment depends on a defense contract. That settles it, time to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 lol. idk, looks like trumpy wants to play soldier. business may start booming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 That is a good point, Obama cut back defense spending pretty dramatically his last 3 or 4 years. If you survived that you are good for the next 4 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I've jumped off of a couple sinking ships before anyone seemed to realize they were going down. Just try land on something stable if you leave. A 3 year old company comes with a level of risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 i agree that a company that young is pretty risky, but they're in a growth business and they make some seriously high-end equipment. company is called systech stainless. idk, i might try and do the following: get my resume to him this week and maybe get an offer. if i do, i'll volunteer for the layoff that becomes effective next friday. it's a temporary layoff, so i'd be called back in a few months. in those few months i could feel things out and see if i'm a good fit and vice versa. virtually no risk to me....if i like the new gig, i just decline my recall rights when the layoff is over. if it isnt working out, i go back to work at my current place. but a plan is just a list of shit that's not going to happen the way you think it will, so probably fantasy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I periodically look for at available opportunities, even when I'm not "really" looking. In this day an age very few companies are loyal to their EEs. If you happen to work for one you are lucky (mine certainly isn't). You can be out on your ass before you know it. Always have a plan and keep your options open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I might be a future customer, when the kid and I open our craft moonshine speak easy bar thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, CrazySkullCrusher said: i agree that a company that young is pretty risky, but they're in a growth business and they make some seriously high-end equipment. company is called systech stainless. idk, i might try and do the following: get my resume to him this week and maybe get an offer. if i do, i'll volunteer for the layoff that becomes effective next friday. it's a temporary layoff, so i'd be called back in a few months. in those few months i could feel things out and see if i'm a good fit and vice versa. virtually no risk to me....if i like the new gig, i just decline my recall rights when the layoff is over. if it isnt working out, i go back to work at my current place. but a plan is just a list of shit that's not going to happen the way you think it will, so probably fantasy. That sounds like a good plan, right there. See what they have to offer, and go from there. 22 minutes ago, Tpoppa said: I periodically look for at available opportunities, even when I'm not "really" looking. In this day an age very few companies are loyal to their EEs. If you happen to work for one you are lucky (mine certainly isn't). You can be out on your ass before you know it. Always have a plan and keep your options open. I was told a long time ago, by a manager that I was working for at the time, that you should ALWAYS keep your resume ready, and options open. He left that company, returned, and is still with them (last I heard) and that was over 15 years ago. That company moved all production out of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tonik said: I might be a future customer, when the kid and I open our craft moonshine speak easy bar thing. Edited April 26, 2017 by motocat12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 gonna send a resume in. fuck it, its worth a shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 After they make an offer bring up the risk and negotiate a fluffy severance package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 not a bad idea. was thinking more along the lines of a signing bonus tho. gotta lure me away for the same pay basically as i'm making now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 emailed my updated resume last night. got a response about 15 minutes ago. they will contact me to set up an interview soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojocho Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 4/26/2017 at 10:34 AM, CrazySkullCrusher said: get my resume to him this week and maybe get an offer. if i do, i'll volunteer for the layoff that becomes effective next friday. it's a temporary layoff, so i'd be called back in a few months. in those few months i could feel things out and see if i'm a good fit and vice versa. virtually no risk to me....if i like the new gig, i just decline my recall rights when the layoff is over. if it isnt working out, i go back to work at my current place. That's a pretty good plan. Worst case, you get the a few months expanding your knowledge about your new hobby. Best case, you are balls deep in something that pockets you mega kwon and you're a rainmaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Interview scheduled for Tuesday afternoon. Will update after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 1 hour ago, CrazySkullCrusher said: Interview scheduled for Tuesday afternoon. Will update after. You got this man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Good luck brother! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Good luck man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 highly suggest you drink a shit ton of beer immediately before to brush up on the industry before the interview. best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 On 5/7/2017 at 5:14 PM, jbot said: highly suggest you drink a shit ton of beer immediately before to brush up on the industry before the interview. best of luck! I'm doing some light research now. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaDoc Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Being part of OR is a good job security, buy shares from him before June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 So the position I was interviewing for is supervisor of manufacturing. All of it. They are actually considering putting me in charge of their entire manufacturing operation. Not sure if I'm the guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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