Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Long story short been offered a 30 day prabtionary/training that could lead to a full time position for a company (Velmec SRL) that is starting US operations (as Velmec LLC) in March I only had one 20 minute phone interview with an HR person then got the letter of ok you’re in to do this which struck me as odd for an almost 6 figure job I can’t tell if this is legit. I can’t tell if it’s too risky because they don’t have established operation in the US. So looking for any assistance if anyone can find out more than I’ve been able to at this point. Been playing phone tag with the guy for 3 days and starting to wonder if it’s purposeful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 If it sounds too good to be true........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Do you have emails from them you can look at the domain or just comms through a site? Have they given you the local location you could dig for info on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: If it sounds too good to be true........... the salary isn't too good to be true. It's about the standard for the positions I'm looking at currently however it's the ease in which I've gotten in feels too good to be true. I just don't know if that is just how they do things and weed people out through a training/assessment period. It all seems odd but at the same time a lot of what they have told me I've been able to find enough info online to back it up. My next step is calling down to the building they are supposedly going to be moving in to downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, motocat12 said: Do you have emails from them you can look at the domain or just comms through a site? Have they given you the local location you could dig for info on? So that is where this whole suspicion came from in the first place. The website they gave me was started about a month ago which seemed suspicious but at the same time knowing they are just starting US operations also makes sense. They did give me the address and possible opening date of their CLE office which checks out as an actual office building with space to rent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Seems a bit sketchy but could be fine. The probationary period is very common for European companies. My company says 3 or 6 months. I forget. I would definitely recommend doing more research about the company. Maybe try calling the corporate number and ask to speak to HR? Could be a scam to get your social and everything for identity theft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 If it's a scam, the exact situation is probably posted somewhere online. They reuse what works. Mid-brexit uk or continental europe? Trial employment scam: The applicant is told that they were selected as one of two people to go through a three-week trial period. The name of the company and the website seem legitimate, but they ask you to fill out a contract with personal information including your Social Security number. You get the job right away. After a quick phone or Instant Message interview, the ‘interviewer’ immediately contacts you to offer you the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Casper said: Seems a bit sketchy but could be fine. The probationary period is very common for European companies. My company says 3 or 6 months. I forget. I would definitely recommend doing more research about the company. Maybe try calling the corporate number and ask to speak to HR? Could be a scam to get your social and everything for identity theft. The identity theft was the biggest worry I had. The nice part is they said I don't need to leave my current role as it's only a daily business module that I could complete during the evening. The only thing they have asked me for to this point to start the probation is a signature. Wouldn't need to supply any of the usual personal information until was offered a full time role. They are HQ out of Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, motocat12 said: If it's a scam, the exact situation is probably posted somewhere online. They reuse what works. Mid-brexit uk or continental europe? Trial employment scam: The applicant is told that they were selected as one of two people to go through a three-week trial period. The name of the company and the website seem legitimate, but they ask you to fill out a contract with personal information including your Social Security number. You get the job right away. After a quick phone or Instant Message interview, the ‘interviewer’ immediately contacts you to offer you the job. Sure sounds the same to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bad324 said: The identity theft was the biggest worry I had. The nice part is they said I don't need to leave my current role as it's only a daily business module that I could complete during the evening. The only thing they have asked me for to this point to start the probation is a signature. Wouldn't need to supply any of the usual personal information until was offered a full time role. They are HQ out of Italy Odds are if the company in Italy is real, this US office isn’t. Call the Italian corporate office and ask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Bad324 said: The nice part is they said I don't need to leave my current role as it's only a daily business module that I could complete during the evening. Near 6 figures and only requires this kind of time commitment? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: Near 6 figures and only requires this kind of time commitment? Really? For the training/assessment. Full time role is 45-50 hours a week. you supposedly get 50% of the salary in that first month regardless if you get offered a full time role. I find that hard to believe which is why I’m trying to get ahold of the guy to tell him give me half up front half when/if I finish but yea I’m skeptical as shit which is why I’m trying to solicit as many ideas and opinions to flush this out Edited February 18, 2019 by Bad324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 FFS, did anyone Google the parent company? 900K in sales and 8 employees. Corporate HQ looks like a shithole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Jesus, all they do is sell and repair overhead lifts and shit. Exactly how is that going international? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 There is also already Velmec LLC, but they already have Boston offices. https://velmec.com/contacts.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 And the above is registered at Hosting Ukraine LLC, which seems to be a well known registrar for job scammers and was just created in late January. https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=velmec.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Tonik said: FFS, did anyone Google the parent company? 900K in sales and 8 employees. Corporate HQ looks like a shithole. he never told us the domain. cold be http://www.velmecsrl.it/ close# they probably both work the same.... 🤔 Edited February 18, 2019 by motocat12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Tonik said: FFS, did anyone Google the parent company? 900K in sales and 8 employees. Corporate HQ looks like a shithole. 2 hours ago, Tonik said: Jesus, all they do is sell and repair overhead lifts and shit. Exactly how is that going international? This is the kind of info I was trying to find and couldn't find shit. My google skills are pretty bad though for anything below the surface. 2 hours ago, Tonik said: There is also already Velmec LLC, but they already have Boston offices. https://velmec.com/contacts.php 1 hour ago, Tonik said: And the above is registered at Hosting Ukraine LLC, which seems to be a well known registrar for job scammers and was just created in late January. https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=velmec.com Velmec SRL is what they are over in Europe, here in the US they are operating under Velmec LLC. According to the dude I have been corresponding with the Boston office isn't even open yet. When I first googled them that Ukraine things is the very first thing I found which made me super skeptical about it from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Brian, now it's time to drag this out as much as you can. See if you can get them to paypal you 110% of what you are owed and let them know you will pay them back that 10% via check after the fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Well now I'm 99.9% certain this is a scam. Thanks @Tonik that was the kind of help I was needing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Still some confusion on this on my end. Velmec.com is the peeps with the Boston office and that is the Ukraine registered host. Velmecsrl.it is the crane peeps with 8 employees. There are two companies in this conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Also this http://www.valmecitaly.com/1941-2/ wood equipment weird google hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Tonik said: Still some confusion on this on my end. Velmec.com is the peeps with the Boston office and that is the Ukraine registered host. Velmecsrl.it is the crane peeps with 8 employees. There are two companies in this conversation. So the way it was told to me is that Velmec.com is Velmec LLC which is a subsidiary of Velmec SRL. My guess is they were using to legitimize it themselves 10 minutes ago, motocat12 said: Also this http://www.valmecitaly.com/1941-2/ wood equipment weird google hit Interesting. I found a lot about Valmac companies but finding Velmec has been quite a bit harder Edited February 18, 2019 by Bad324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) And then there is this. From 2004. https://impeller.net/magazine/News_en/dxA39z.asp Edited February 18, 2019 by Tonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 If you want more fun you can see what you can find out about these phone numbers: 774-327-3891 617-997-0963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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