Guest extremedreamsjh Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 i got a 1990 honda crx what engine is the best to putin it for the money. i am wanting to do a engine swap but dont know what one . some one told me a B16a1 is the best for it but thats why i am asking you guys i know some of you will help me out.. IF you guys say its a B16a1 or what ever could u tell me how much money they run or what not where the best place to get thim and if you could tell me the serieal number on the engines so i know when i do buy it thats what it is thanks for ur help columbus racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 you should look on ebay for a ZC engine, i guess it was only used in canada and japan. they are cheap, DOHC, and pretty good engines from what i hear. Last i know you could get an engine and tranny for under a grand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlubFoot Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I had a CRX with a b16a2 in it and it skooted along quite nicely. I bought the car already swapped so I couldn't tell you how the install went, but it was definitely nice. I'm pretty sure you can pick up a b16(a1 or a2) for under $1600 from an internet motor company... I'll check around some sites and see what I can find. Also, try asking this same question on OhioHondas.com and Honda-Tech.com They're the hondas gurus around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Ricochet: Why would he go through the headaches of a swap to go from 100hp to 129hp??Becuase he can boost it to 10psi stock for (probably) less invested money than the GSR motor and have alot more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harris92 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 ls turbo. Lower compression ratio,(good for boosting) and lots of potential. Just my .02$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Well since noone else said a hybrid.... A hyrbid. Im an all motor fan so naturaly im a fan of the LS/Vtec. There are many variations of the hybrids but the best IMO is the B20/Vtec, B20/B16A. Its a nice combination, and makes pretty decent torque. Thats what you need to look for. Torque output. Itll give you traction problems, but at least you wont be playing catchup to the neighborhood 99-00 Si bully smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by Ricochet: Ever build one? It's not a very reliable setup, and in the end he'll only see about 155whp. Also for a beginner (which I assume this guy is) the only option would be to pay somebody to build that and it's not cheap! Not alone. I helped out with one about a year ago. Made some NICE power. It was a high octane engine... 12.4:1 i think was what it ended up being. It pulled over 220whp on a dynojet so i always thought them to be a nice package for a drag car. If its a daily driver though, i wouldnt recommend it... i agree. Reliability = graemlins/jerkit.gif We always used to say, "If your not breaking parts, your not making enough power." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 thanks alot everyone oyu guys have help me narrow it down. now i gfot like 4 different choices lol. I want the car to be fast as hell oin a quarter mile. it ant my every day driven car but when i get it done i do want to be able to drive it around a little bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIEF Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 A H22 is not bad for daily driving in your CRX. You will not notice any difference from any of the B-series, even on off-ramps. Now as far as auto-x, I don't know. I'm sure it won't be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by Ricochet: extreme, are you going turbo? If so, get a B18B (LS) engine and boost the holy christ out of her. They only have 139hp/~128tq, but since they don't have vtec their compression is low and the gears are a lot taller so you'll be in boost longer than the dohc vtecs. Here's a video of an older hatch (which is still heavier than your car!) with a turbo LS setup racing a built Viper: http://cheesefrog.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=1 Bad example using cheesefrog. That car is what you call a "sucker-fucker". Its got more garage engineering and tuning in it than most cars have coming from the factory. You could shell out a CRX and have an extremely light car. Now the nice thing about that is that you dont need much power for it to be quick. You could run 15in of pressure through a T3 super60 and still make 230-250bhp... enough for some 13 sec or better ETs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by Harris92: ls turbo. Lower compression ratio,(good for boosting) and lots of potential. Just my .02$lower compression dosent alaways mean better As for turboing your honda, build your motor, it will save things in the long run. Be differnt put a small block in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 no i dont want to put a small block in it.. i thought about it.. but that means you have to put a jeges frame under it and i am ok on all that stuff lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 wow thats a tight pic.. is it a drag car or a pulling toy. you know what i mean when u hook up to a slead and pull it.. if its a drag car have u had it out and what did it run.. i bet it took alot of work doing that what all did u have to cut up lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Those pics are as old as the internet. It's not his car. As far as engines, I'd go for either the ZC or B16A for ease of swap and to keep the same weight distribution, then slap a turbo on it. A member here used to have a turboed ZC CRX. I think he put down 189whp. Not sure if that was race gas or not. Maybe he'll read this thread and post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murasaki Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 That CRX is hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 heres a short clip of that BB CRX... (right click, save as) www.mrmeanrracing.com/vids/44.mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 is a b16 and a b16a1 the same thing.. alot of people say a b16 are they the same thing. how much they run. the zc how much do they run and what kind of car did they come out in or if someone got one for sale let me know thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 B16A1 B16A2 B16A3 are all pretty much the same... they have suttle differences but more or less the same. The B16A2's are from the 99-00 Civic Si. The B16A3's are from highend Del Sol's. The B16A1 i THINK came from old civic HB's... but im not for sure. Out of all of them, the B16A1 has the best head. Its more or less a B18C5 casting. If you P&P, mill it .040, and put in bigger valves... it is basicaly a ITR head. For the blocks id assume the B16A2 was the best but im not for sure. I havent played with too many B16's so my knowledge is limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 i vote for b18b and a bolt on turbokit. the swap would be cheap.and honda turbokits are getting retardedly cheap. like 600$new for an exernally gated t3/t4 kit with everything but fuel and chargepipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Originally posted by Ricochet: I wouldn't say that: http://www.turbo-kits.com/civic_turbo_kits.html http://www.overboost.com/obs/browse_subcat.asp?cat_id=1&cat_name=Forced+Induction&sc_id=3&sc_name=Turbo+Kits http://www.modacar.com/products/Honda/Civic/MODAFOIN/ Even used kits aren't that cheap: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=981195&postid=12028256 retarded cheap turbostuff sure it's not topshelf stuff, but on a budget...it'll do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 heres why you dont want that turbo kit... WET FLOATING BEARINGS graemlins/thumbsdown.gifgraemlins/thumbsdown.gifgraemlins/thumbsdown.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mudbutt Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 you can still do it cheap. As much as I hate to admit it(I work at a place that builds kits www.forcedfab.com) the ssautocrap manifolds are getting better at not falling apart. They still require a lot of grinding to make acceptable, but when you want a $150 manifold you take what you can get. Or you can come to us for a log style that WONT crack or send chunks of metal through the turbine for a bit more. You can pick up a used t3/t4 50 trim in the $2-300 range, sometimes less if you look and new ones running under 600. like nissan, there are a plethora of wonderful free honda rom editors, uberdata being the one Ive used with success in the past. As far as an intercooler goes, the yard or internet if you are lazy is your friend. A 1g sidemount or starion/conquest front mount will fit the bill for a sub 300whp car. We can assemble a kit installed for sometimes less than just a name brand kit out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 i hate cheap stuff. I like custom everything. Ive got some designs for manifolds i need for my race engine... can you guys build from basic plans? The intake mani has to be made from square/rectangular (round edge) aluminum tubing. Exhaust can be from SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Civic SI-R B16A 88-91 - Engine Swap Package (JAS-B16A1-A) would this be a good engine for a crx and will it fit and could this engine with some mods run 12s new at this guys dont laff at me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by Ricochet: For 12's you'd need a boosted dohc engine. graemlins/thumbsdown.gif Ill agree wut you on more cases than not, but if guys are into the 10s NA, im sure that a street builder could figure how to squeez a 12.999 It would take a hell of a driver, that im sure of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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