kawi kid Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 this is pretty amazing :eek::eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I couldn't tell, but not impressed if he wasn't on slicks. Ok, kidding. Someone teach me how to do that on a road bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 its easy. all about throttle control and being smooth. easier said than done...thank you for finding that i thought about that vid recently and couldn't for the life of me remember where/what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 its easy. all about throttle control and being smooth.There's a little more to it than that. However, a good set of rain tires on the track can be a lot of fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandova Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 That's what it looked like at Indy gp this year. It's Incredible the weather that they raced in....not just rode in , but raced. On the last day, Sunday, conditions were at the worst. So, it's for sure possible, but the tires become even more crucial. Mind over matter helps also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4isvt Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 amazing control I ride in the rain but not like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 dude was drifting on a bike!!! awesome!!! my drift would just keep going till i was in kentucky! Upside down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisoh Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 There's a little more to it than that. However, a good set of rain tires on the track can be a lot of funHey Todd you been on Nelson when the pond is there just over the Cross over road out of the kink into 12?Rain tires make rain riding a lot more relaxing.. Aint nothing like knee down in a down hill off camber chicane or WOT on the banking in the tri-oval at Nashville in the rain...I had lost all confidence in street tires in the rain at Mid OH when I lost the front dang near vertical in the keyhole. Never touched the brakes, was on positive throttle but neutral, 25 mph, hanging off the bike, and still front said buh bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hey Todd you been on Nelson when the pond is there just over the Cross over road out of the kink into 12?Rain tires make rain riding a lot more relaxing.. Aint nothing like knee down in a down hill off camber chicane or WOT on the banking in the tri-oval at Nashville in the rain...I had lost all confidence in street tires in the rain at Mid OH when I lost the front dang near vertical in the keyhole. Never touched the brakes, was on positive throttle but neutral, 25 mph, hanging off the bike, and still front said buh bye.I've raced Nelson plenty of times in the rain, and the entrance to 12 is my FAVORITE place to pass - wet or dry, but especially in the rain.Street tires suck at the track - period. You should know better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjachk08 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 wow.. i cringed the whole time while i watched that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinalFusion Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Very impressive! I'll never be good enough to do that, that's for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 There's a little more to it than that. However, a good set of rain tires on the track can be a lot of funok well maybe but thats the basic jist of it. slow is smooth and smooth is fast...Hey Todd you been on Nelson when the pond is there just over the Cross over road out of the kink into 12?Rain tires make rain riding a lot more relaxing.. Aint nothing like knee down in a down hill off camber chicane or WOT on the banking in the tri-oval at Nashville in the rain...I had lost all confidence in street tires in the rain at Mid OH when I lost the front dang near vertical in the keyhole. Never touched the brakes, was on positive throttle but neutral, 25 mph, hanging off the bike, and still front said buh bye.why were you vertical in the keyhole...? There is a dip in the middle of the keyhole as you bring the bike back in for the second apex, i lost my front as well same conditions as you (+throttle hanging off etc). Brand new rear PP and a end of two season old front PP. Im not saying it wasn't something i did, but i could be the tire age and condition as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quessimasquid Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 damn. thanks. now i feel like a complete puss in the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremygsxr Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 My old gixxer would handle really well in the rain, so if I was out I always run 100+ on the highway. People were pooping, like omg I can't go 20mph without hydroplaning, what is wrong with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 good skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Hey Todd you been on Nelson when the pond is there just over the Cross over road out of the kink into 12?Rain tires make rain riding a lot more relaxing.. Aint nothing like knee down in a down hill off camber chicane or WOT on the banking in the tri-oval at Nashville in the rain...I had lost all confidence in street tires in the rain at Mid OH when I lost the front dang near vertical in the keyhole. Never touched the brakes, was on positive throttle but neutral, 25 mph, hanging off the bike, and still front said buh bye.Street tires in the rain on a track anywhere isn't good. Also, you don't have to touch the brakes to load the front. I suspect you loaded the front with even a little off the throttle. Riders do it w/o knowing...How do you hang off a bike at 25mph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweezel Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 How do you hang off a bike at 25mph?Very carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Very carefully.Of course, I know you lean off a degree at slower speeds, but I see a picture in my mind of a guy leaned WAY off his bike while it is straight up and down. Like the video games at Dave and Busters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisoh Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Street tires in the rain on a track anywhere isn't good. Also, you don't have to touch the brakes to load the front. I suspect you loaded the front with even a little off the throttle. Riders do it w/o knowing...How do you hang off a bike at 25mph?Same as you do other way but with the bike near vertical.. I know I didn't roll off the gas as that was one thing I made sure I didn't do. The only thing I can think of was oil. The CLASS day was right after Vintage days and there was oil spills all day. One they shut the track down for 30 minutes to clean up. A guy left a oil trail from T1 to the back straight.I was in the middle of the concrete in the Keyhole (didn't want to try and hold tight as if I missed the seam change in the rain I was sure of to put me down), and lost the front just as it really starts to drop downhill when the front just exit stage left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisoh Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Of course, I know you lean off a degree at slower speeds, but I see a picture in my mind of a guy leaned WAY off his bike while it is straight up and down. Like the video games at Dave and Busters...That is precisely what I was doing LOL. I remember sliding on my rear off into the grass just going WTH... Got up picked the bike off then rode back in the grass pretty much the whole way to the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisoh Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 I've raced Nelson plenty of times in the rain, and the entrance to 12 is my FAVORITE place to pass - wet or dry, but especially in the rain.Street tires suck at the track - period. You should know better Well I had just wadded my 01 at Putnam 3 weeks before and was at my dad's Christmas Day present school CLASS at mid OH on my new 03 1k...I have never been on the track with streets since then.. Though I did run Nahshville drying with the DOTs as I didn't want to destroy my rains first day on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well I had just wadded my 01 at Putnam 3 weeks before and was at my dad's Christmas Day present school CLASS at mid OH on my new 03 1k...I have never been on the track with streets since then.. Though I did run Nahshville drying with the DOTs as I didn't want to destroy my rains first day on them.DOT's are way different than a street tire.But you already knew that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Should have been in Indy this year for the GP race... massive rain + 70mph wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisoh Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Should have been in Indy this year for the GP race... massive rain + 70mph wind.I was in the Stands in T7 at the top. With one leg wrapped under the seat in front, and an umbrella over my back leaning against the railing...When the whole thing would move it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisoh Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 DOT's are way different than a street tire.But you already knew that....Yeah DOTs should have less grip in the wet without silica.. But since there wasn't any standing water to tread they did fine. And Nashville has a lot of grip in the wet. Not like our Ice rinks we have up here.Still that puddle at Nelson after the crossover road was nasty... I remember in the 20 lap race after about 6-7 laps of getting hit with a few gallons in the chest I got in front of 3rd or 4th so I had clean track.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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