Guest Blue97accord Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I've got a 97 accord lx with the f22 non-vtec engine. I've been thinking about doing a h22 swap or just bolting a turbo on the f22. What would be my best option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 What is your daily driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blue97accord Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 the accord, but i can have it down for however long i need to do a swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 You may want to find another platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 You may want to find another platform. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Steve Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I've got a 97 accord lx with the f22 non-vtec engine. I've been thinking about doing a h22 swap or just bolting a turbo on the f22. What would be my best option? I have 1 question. Where the hell did u come from? Who are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 If you want a honda to do a swap in. Go buy an EF, EG hatch or a crx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I have 1 question. Where the hell did u come from? Who are you? I think he is trying to say please introduce yourself in the classroom forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbustuner Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 read http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1983967 I like accords..they can be sleeper status if you know what your doing.Super strong cast closed deck block,and Lower compression then most civic motors and swaps.They can easily handle alot of horsepower and people are just starting to take advantage of f series motors.Check out http://www.bisimoto.com/ for parts as well,He currently holds the world record for fastest n/a honda sohc ,in the 9's with his parts tuning and carbs My favorite accord 612 whp at 25 psi,built h22 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2132981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 read http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1983967 I like accords..they can be sleeper status if you know what your doing.Super strong cast closed deck block,and Lower compression then most civic motors and swaps.They can easily handle alot of horsepower and people are just starting to take advantage of f series motors.Check out http://www.bisimoto.com/ for parts as well,He currently holds the world record for fastest n/a honda sohc ,in the 9's with his parts tuning and carbs My favorite accord 612 whp at 25 psi,built h22 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2132981 bisi is crazy....360+whp n/a. I remember reading the build up in a magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I would do neather and get a better platform. you will thank me. Just because you CAN make something fast does not mean its the best car for the job. Shit a turbo DSM would cost you less then the turbo kit you would not for that car. You got your self a great daily there. Keep it as that and find your toy. I'm on the other fence I'm looking for a daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Apex Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 If your going to do it, go with the H22. It will be easier and more reliable than turboing your current motor and probably cheaper too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I had a 97 LX that made little over 300whp and 350ft/lbs on 13psi. Check this website out: http://www.accordinglydone.com look for posts by schmuckingham and you should find what your looking for. I also have all the parts left over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbustuner Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 If your going to do it, go with the H22. It will be easier and more reliable than turboing your current motor and probably cheaper too. if your going to do a swap do the jdm f20b. http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30013 why? it's only 999 (or 1999 if you add the jdm tranny with lsd but you could use what you have now.) and it has the same 200hp as an h22(it does have slightly less tourqe),and on top of that it diffrent. the cheapest h22 is 1950.The most exspensive h22 swap is around 4k(all though it is the rarest and most power full at 220).I hear that h22's have weak trans,or at least the 96 plus usdm ones do http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30016 http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=page&item=30019 You could pull a turbo setup for less then 1950 granted you knew what you were doing,and did alot of fab work yourself and have friends,but not for less then 999.99 unless you get inefficient parts or cheap chinese parts.I had a t25 powered f22 prelude and believe me it sucked balls because that turbo on that motor had no top end what so ever.It was cheap, but would I do it again? No unless I wanted to spend more on a better setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 i suggest new engine and then further down the road turbo it. also look at different cars but if you realy like this accord keep it and do something original and keep the invader body kit off of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpfiend Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I will go against the majority and say turbo. Engine swaps are always more difficult and more expensive than originally planned, and even if done sucessfully often result in a car that is much worse than you originally started with as far as reliability/cooling/handling balance/longevity/etc. Exceptions are cases where two engines were available from the factory like the 4 cylinder and v8 mustangs, v6/v8 f-bodies, etc and even these are not as easy as people make them sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 If it's an F22B2 like what I had...drive it easy and use the money you save to buy another project car...granted, I loved my accord. I don't know why. But. My experience is that it would be quite expensive and hard to get it together. Turbos, expensive. Internal manufacturers are not too common for the F22 motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar1647545494 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Different platform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Don't mod your daily driver. End of thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 keep your beater and buy my turbo mustang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossle Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Engine swaps are always more difficult and more expensive than originally planned. I will add that big modifications are always more difficult and more expensive than originally planned. Often people tend to lose motivation once starting the project. Most sucessful people i have seen mod cars......day to day mechanics doing it themselves, or really rich people that can afford to have other people do the work. On topic.....Depending on what YOU choose to do. If you turbo - first invest in another daily driver, your friends/family will appreciate it. If you swap - Keep your current as a daily driver and find another accord that someone has started a swap, or has blown up, or has high miles on the motor you are taking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Don't mod your daily driver. End of thread. The most intelligent post in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 The only issue with F/H series is the trans, they have some shitty gear ratios. If your going to boost it get an H23 trans little longer gear then the h22 but a hell of a lot shorter then your stock F series trans. Also H22's stock are known to crack walls at anything more then 10lbs on stock sleeves. Plus with the h22 you have to find a machine shop that is actually willing and able to sleeve them due to thier FRM cylinder walls needing a special tool to be done. A pretty common thing now for the accord owners is what they are calling a G swap, they put a h22 head on a F series bottom end. Check it out on honda-tech. The DOHC JDM F20B is a nice motor. I saw one bone stock in a EG hatch running 14's, faster then his buddies modded H22 in same chassis. H series motors are heavy bastards and way over priced for what you are getting performance wise Get a dsm if you like working on your car everyday!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 The only issue with F/H series is the trans, they have some shitty gear ratios. If your going to boost it get an H23 trans little longer gear then the h22 but a hell of a lot shorter then your stock F series trans. Also H22's stock are known to crack walls at anything more then 10lbs on stock sleeves. Plus with the h22 you have to find a machine shop that is actually willing and able to sleeve them due to thier FRM cylinder walls needing a special tool to be done. A pretty common thing now for the accord owners is what they are calling a G swap, they put a h22 head on a F series bottom end. Check it out on honda-tech. The DOHC JDM F20B is a nice motor. I saw one bone stock in a EG hatch running 14's, faster then his buddies modded H22 in same chassis. H series motors are heavy bastards and way over priced for what you are getting performance wise Get a dsm if you like working on your car everyday!! F series trans for boost, the H23 is too short a gear for the low revving F series and we are shifting into fifth in the quarter which is not good for the F/H tranny because of the 5th gear shift fork mis-alignment. phillips racing engines can sleeve the H series no problems. the JDM DOHC F20B is just a USDM H23 essentially except the displacement, heads are identical. The G23 swap is becoming more popular, search the link i posted earlier for piratemcfred who is currently the guy to talk to about that swap. All the G23 is is a F23 bottom end with H22 fitted to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Trust me you do not want a F series trans for boost unless you plan on being only a roll car. If your going to race at the track the H23 is your best bet for a boosted F/H series. But hey do what you want with your car and come see me when its not what you wanted it to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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