kshymkiw83 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Let me show you a easier/cheaper method. I will retract all of the below, if you tell me you took the IE and passed it, however I have $5000 that says that is not the case. 1. Use online resources to acquire E-Books/CBT Nuggets/Guides Ect. 2. Test 3. Pass 4. Profit ? He wouldn't need 5 grand for an IE. You can pass that for ~1500. If your that good of course. Amazing how one of the highest level Cisco Certs requires no Pre-Req's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 What is the IE cert? Anyway think new horizons bill for a year except I didn't go to that school. This was back when I was in college a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 He wouldn't need 5 grand for an IE. You can pass that for ~1500. If your that good of course. Amazing how one of the highest level Cisco Certs requires no Pre-Req's I know But at LEAST I wouldn't feel as bad for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 CCIE is the last zero to hero cert. You can pass the written using the above methods, but you will never pass the lab without a large expenditure. CCNA is a good certification to have as if you have passed it recently, you have some competency in networking (however most CCNAs cannot subnet IP in their head). A+ and N+ are only for real newbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 CCNA is a good certification to have as if you have passed it recently, you have some competency in networking (however most CCNAs cannot subnet IP in their head) I know I can't. I've never really been a math guy, and for whatever reason Subnet Math never clicked in my head, even though it was always the first chapter in every networking class I have ever had. People in the real world use subnet calculators anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I know I can't. I've never really been a math guy, and for whatever reason Subnet Math never clicked in my head, even though it was always the first chapter in every networking class I have ever had. People in the real world use subnet calculators anyway. Not this people, real networkers do it in their head. /25 is half of a /24. If you have ever looked at and-ing the binary bits from an IP to a sub-net it is pretty easy to see how it works. Additionally having to work it backwards into a wildcard mask will really cement it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshymkiw83 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 CCIE is the last zero to hero cert. You can pass the written using the above methods, but you will never pass the lab without a large expenditure. CCNA is a good certification to have as if you have passed it recently, you have some competency in networking (however most CCNAs cannot subnet IP in their head). A+ and N+ are only for real newbs. Very true on all statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshymkiw83 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Not this people, real networkers do it in their head. /25 is half of a /24. If you have ever looked at and-ing the binary bits from an IP to a sub-net it is pretty easy to see how it works. Additionally having to work it backwards into a wildcard mask will really cement it for you. Wild Cards are fun, I still have to stop and think about them, and I have been doing this for 5 years or so. I just don't change alot of ACL's on a constant basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 OH CCIE... yeah I would of taken that and it was in my plans but I got burned out after my time ran out. For my year of schooling I could take as many tests as I wanted and each were around $100. I wish I had more study time at the time I was enrolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 The Written was $100, you have to fly to a Cisco site for the lab. I was on a team that created a similar test for Aruba Networks. The failure rate was very high, everyone thinks they can make the gear dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 everyone thinks they can make the gear dance. It's on my roadmap, but several years out. I want to finish my CCVP sometime this year and then maybe focus on STARTING the IE studying. We actually have a few in our center for mentoring, but even still we got a guy who is on strike 3/4 with the lab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 The Written was $100, you have to fly to a Cisco site for the lab. I was on a team that created a similar test for Aruba Networks. The failure rate was very high, everyone thinks they can make the gear dance. That is what I liked about my school. All tests and labs were done on site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshymkiw83 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 The Written was $100, you have to fly to a Cisco site for the lab. I was on a team that created a similar test for Aruba Networks. The failure rate was very high, everyone thinks they can make the gear dance. I have started to see more "Paper Cert" IE's pop up lately. I have worked with several IE's, who could only do things the way they taught you in the books. Otherwise they were clueless and were below CCNA Level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 This thread reminds me I have to schedule the CCNA class again in San Jose. My NA expires in April. What is a good test prep engine anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I use a password protected excel spreadsheet. All the really important passwords are in my head (i.e. domain controller(s), BES server, exchange, phone switch, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 VCP, CCNA and Security + are on my list of certs to complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshymkiw83 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 This thread reminds me I have to schedule the CCNA class again in San Jose. My NA expires in April. What is a good test prep engine anymore? I have seen good success with Brain Dumps, and BOSON. There is one I sent to Thorne a while back too, I think it was called Actual Tests, it is a place out of China, where they literally have a copy of the test, in english. You can usually find it out in BitTorrent or News land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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