theweiser1 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I'm looking for a local machine shop to prep my 4.6l block for a rebuild. Can you recommend someone? Also I read a few posts about Fowler Engines being good but they take a while. What should I expect to pay for services such as this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Fowler Fast racing Columbus col-weld(harrisburg pike) central ohio engines (behind jegs on 11th) all will have different pricing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweiser1 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Fowler Fast racing Columbus col-weld(harrisburg pike) central ohio engines (behind jegs on 11th) all will have different pricing I called central ohio engines and Fowler. Spoke with Jeff at Fowler their rates seem reasonable and he offered a lot of additional information with regards to the rebuild the other didn't offer. Thanks for the help! Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Fast Racing in grove port Phillips racing engines in grove city or Performance research off westerville rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruinms Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 the place behind jegs on 11th will not stand by there work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 M&m Machine hands down mike rush stands behind his work 100%, you do not make magazines for great builds for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 M&m Machine hands down mike rush stands behind his work 100%, you do not make magazines for great builds for nothing. +1 based on many other I know that have had work done there, though I have always used Fast Racing and have been very pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 To hell with Phillips racing, go somewhere else. They did a decent job, but they suck to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 To hell with Phillips racing, go somewhere else. They did a decent job, but they suck to deal with. never had any issues but i also know a friend whos brother works there so i have never had an issue. I manly have Fast racing do stuff for me because the builder is a good friend of my family. Only shop i havent herd good stuff from is M&M herd a couple horror stories from some people on other sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 To hell with Phillips racing, go somewhere else. They did a decent job, but they suck to deal with. I have had ZERO issues with Mike and Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 never had any issues but i also know a friend whos brother works there so i have never had an issue. I manly have Fast racing do stuff for me because the builder is a good friend of my family. Only shop i havent herd good stuff from is M&M herd a couple horror stories from some people on other sites. What kind of issues have you herd about them? Every machine shop has horror storys because no matter what happens something will happen in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Fowler has a my friends 4.6 setup right now and doing the shortblock work and assembly. They have been pretty quick getting things done, Im sure they will do work with my motors soon enough( just waiting for the 2v to top the windows the 4v made this summer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 What kind of issues have you herd about them? Every machine shop has horror storys because no matter what happens something will happen in time. Gut on ohio hondas wrote a Novel about how they screwed him over 3 times with the same motor then took it to phillips and they ended up fixing the final issues. Another person had a similar issue with there sleeves sinking and them not fixing the problem (motor wasnt installed). I have never had any personal use but these guys were in detail with the encounters. I also have no need since i use Fast or Philips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Mike @ M&M has built a lot of 4.6L and 5.4L engines for me. He does good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Gut on ohio hondas wrote a Novel about how they screwed him over 3 times with the same motor then took it to phillips and they ended up fixing the final issues. Another person had a similar issue with there sleeves sinking and them not fixing the problem (motor wasnt installed). There are ALWAYS 2 sides to a story, one guy on one forum with a story doesnt make a shop bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 There are ALWAYS 2 sides to a story, one guy on one forum with a story doesnt make a shop bad. Never said i had a problem with them just said i herd stories. dont know either parties. and it was 2 different incidents on the same fourm. Never said i had a problem with them just said i herd stories. the 3 shops i have delt with i have posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Never said i had a problem with them just said i herd stories. dont know either parties. and it was 2 different incidents on the same fourm. Never said i had a problem with them just said i herd stories. the 3 shops i have delt with i have posted. I could say something bad about almost every vendor on here, from a internet "story" or "someone else " If it personally never happend to me, or from someone close to me , I take it with a grain of salt and keep my mouth closed with out spreading false rumors. Of course since if the shop is "friends " with you they are going to treat you different thats human nature. Like I said before if mike rush puts out bad work he would not be noted as one of the best machines shop's around putting out track proven cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 That is true and i guess i didnt catch myself spreading the rumor. So sorry and OP dont judge on the comment i said about the other shop. As far as the friends yea i get taken care of but i have still paid and waited. I have no ties with Performance Research but talking with Bob Profit for almost 2 hours will enlighten anyone and also seeing his amazing work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slomo Eric Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 I called central ohio engines and Fowler. Spoke with Jeff at Fowler their rates seem reasonable and he offered a lot of additional information with regards to the rebuild the other didn't offer. Thanks for the help! Shawn I would go to flower just because I have never had a problem with them. Tell Jeff that Eric from slowmotion sent you! Good luck man! Thanks, Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 I have had ZERO issues with Mike and Matt Their work on my block was good, the heads are a different story, but their customer service is pathetic. I wish I could say it went smoothly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 i have had, or seen issue's if most of the machine shops in this thread. every one makes mcsteaks...its how its handled in the end that keeps my business. being able to tell them what you want, and getting it. i rather talk to the guy machining the parts to tell him what i want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweiser1 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I would go to flower just because I have never had a problem with them. Tell Jeff that Eric from slowmotion sent you! Good luck man! Thanks, Eric I'm curious... with respect to the 4.6, does fowler and M&M recommend boring the 4.6 .020 over? After talking with I believe it was Jeff at Fowler ... he recommended boring 0.020 over but a lot of the companies especially livernois that sell forged rotating assemblies do not recommend boring over if it can be avoided. They stated its a good idea to keep the cylinder walls as thick as possible on the 4.6 for boosted applications. Just wondering what the stance is for both M&M and fowler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I'm curious... with respect to the 4.6, does fowler and M&M recommend boring the 4.6 .020 over? After talking with I believe it was Jeff at Fowler ... he recommended boring 0.020 over but a lot of the companies especially livernois that sell forged rotating assemblies do not recommend boring over if it can be avoided. They stated its a good idea to keep the cylinder walls as thick as possible on the 4.6 for boosted applications. Just wondering what the stance is for both M&M and fowler. iron block will be fine .020 over..but not a sleeved block from my under standing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 From what I am told, M&M did the work on the 383 that's in my S-10, and it's held up to some abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTHER91 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Fast built my short block and it's been dead on not a single issue and I've run it to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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