Mallard Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 "Unofficially" debuted by Lutz. Instead of the 325HP turbo 2.8L 6 that it gets in Europe, we're going to get a 255HP/295 lb-ft turbo 2.0L. It still has AWD and a 6 speed manual. I like it! http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/07/buick-regal-gs-brings-performance-back-to-trishield-brand/#continued http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/regalgs---01_opt.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Good looking car! Configuration and performance sound good too, though wish it was a native RWD platform with this option rather than the Epsilon II, but it's a giant leap forward in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleskate Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 That's one Buick I would certainly drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Now that is sharp. Maybe take a set of the stock wheels remove chrome and powdercoat black. Add moar turbo and grampa would be taking bitches down on 40 rolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 i think its ugly. but i bet they will release the 2.8 325hp here later under the name grand national. if it goes into production.. maybe possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 looks bad ass. I am dissapointed on the motor option though. This car needed to be aimed at the taurus sho, but that weak 255 hp aint going to cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 i like the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I like it THE BACK SHOULD BE BETTER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 They stole the wheels from Nissan! Marxima? 370zed? That is a great looking car! I currently own a Passat, and if this Regal GS is even a halfway decent performer, I would consider it as a replacement. The only problem for me is the CTS-V still gives me happypants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 They stole the wheels from Nissan! Marxima? 370zed? STOLE FROM MAXIMARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SHOULD BE BETTER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1647545493 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 kinda looks like a BMW to me.... nice looking car. Any word on price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Mid-Upper $30s. THE PRICE SHOULD BE BETTER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Would drive but needs more powa!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Speed S4 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I would rock one if it has the 2.8 turbo 6 cyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Mid-Upper $30s. THE PRICE SHOULD BE BETTER. This = Shooting themselves in the foot. If this thing creeps anywhere near high 30's to 40K it will have no place in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I like it a lot. Better looking than the Maxima although very, very simliar. I question weather that power plant would be fun in such a car though. In the MS3 it's one thing...in a big heavy sedan, I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiumss Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Not bad but...... Buick should be dead not Pontiac... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I like it a lot. Better looking than the Maxima although very, very simliar. I question weather that power plant would be fun in such a car though. In the MS3 it's one thing...in a big heavy sedan, I don't think so. It has a chance to be fun to drive. The B7 A4 uses the 200hp/207tq 2.0T in the B7 and it managed a 15.0 1/4 mile time. The B8 uses the 211/258 2.0T and is even faster. Both are fun to drive, and both are excellent engines. So great that Audi stopped putting the 3.2 V6 in the A4. The 2.0T in the Cobalt SS is 260/260. That would be enough to have a very lively, fun to drive AWD sedan. Assuming the weight is around 3500, I think it will do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 This = Shooting themselves in the foot. If this thing creeps anywhere near high 30's to 40K it will have no place in the world. It will have its place in China...the place that is the main reason Buick is still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 It will have its place in China...the place that is the main reason Buick is still around. True, they LOVE those things. They'll pay through the nose for mustang as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I would rock one if it has the 2.8 turbo 6 cyl Consider that the Cobalt/HHR and Solstice/Sky's can get ~450HP with a turbo swap and a reflash. Nothing else. Stock fuel system, stock head, stock bottom end. Autoblog claimed that it would be mid to upper $30k's, but I don't think that's any number that came out of GM's mouth. A base Regal is the same price range as a Malibu, which tops out at $30K EVEN. I see this coming in around $34-36k. Any more and you might as well buy an AWD Caddy CTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Consider that the Cobalt/HHR and Solstice/Sky's can get ~450HP with a turbo swap and a reflash. Nothing else. Stock fuel system, stock head, stock bottom end. Autoblog claimed that it would be mid to upper $30k's, but I don't think that's any number that came out of GM's mouth. A base Regal is the same price range as a Malibu, which tops out at $30K EVEN. I see this coming in around $34-36k. Any more and you might as well buy an AWD Caddy CTS. :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Looks really nice for a buick, but when I think of big car thats matched with power I think of something thats aleast a 6 cly turbo. I know 2.0 liters can be fast blah blah, but no matter what, the on and off switch of power would suck in a bigger car. anyone thats ever had a big turbo 4 cly knows what im talking about . A big car should be able to push its own weight before the turbo too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Looks really nice for a buick, but when I think of big car thats matched with power I think of something thats aleast a 6 cly turbo. I know 2.0 liters can be fast blah blah, but no matter what, the on and off switch of power would suck in a bigger car. anyone thats ever had a big turbo 4 cly knows what im talking about . A big car should be able to push its own weight before the turbo too. This isn't going to be a "big turbo 4cyl". It will likely make full *factory* boost at or below 2k with a flat as hell tq. curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 The turbo spools quickly because it's small and the cam phasing help even more. Here's a dyno plot of the LNF engine in the Cobalt. It makes peak torque from 2000 rpm until almost redline. It's only making a couple ft-lb shy of peak at 1500 rpm. The Regal is tuned for higher torque (295 lb-ft), and my thought's are it will get up and go. Go drive a new Fusion AWD Sport. That car is the same size and it makes 263 HP / 249 lb-ft with a V6. http://archives.media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2010/gmna/HPT%20Library/Ecotec/2010%20Ecotec%2020L%20LNF%20Cobalt%20SS.pdf With a compressor wheel swap guys are putting down around 330HP. (Spools pretty much like stock.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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