russian rocket Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 i was just wondering who all keeps their gun cocked while carrying it? im kind of split on this, i know the guns have safeties but in the back of my mind i feel a bit on easy about it. (btw i carry an xd45) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Uhhh......... KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 i keep mine ready to fire at all times. ive got an M&P 9c and a keltec PF9. the last thing i need if i ever have to use it is to fiddle around with racking the slide to have it ready to shoot and FWIW, the keltec has no safety (except a fairly heavy double action trigger) and the only safety (if you want to call it that) on the M&P is a trigger safety, where the bottom of the trigger has to be pulled back before the rest of the trigger will go back to fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro1647545510 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Cocked and ready to rock 24/7. When I first started carrying I didn't carry with a round in the chamber. I've been carrying with a chambered round for at least two years now. You get used to it. In a self defense situation I don't think most people can chamber a round and flip the safety switch if there is one, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I've always told people that there's a VERY simple way to prevent a cocked and loaded gun from 'going off'... ...don't pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I've always told people that there's a VERY simple way to prevent a cocked and loaded gun from 'going off'... ...don't pull the trigger. Trooof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Condition 1, always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 If I had a better holster for my XD that I didn't have to fuck with all the time, then I'd carry with one in the chamber. The 1911, there's no excuse for not having it in condition 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptn janks Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 my ruger was a double action, so i carried it with one in the pipe, hammer down. pull the trigger and go. 1911, condition 1, as others have said the glock, yeah, pretty much has to be. there is no way to "decock" it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Condition 1 is actually the safest way to carry a 1911, so Ive read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Condition 1 is actually the safest way to carry a 1911, so Ive read. So... cocked and locked is a "safer" way to carry then having nothing chambered and the hammer down? KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 So... cocked and locked is a "safer" way to carry then having nothing chambered and the hammer down? KillJoy Hammer down on a 1911 + dropping a 1911 can actually activate the firing pin and cause the weapon to fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Hammer down on a 1911 + dropping a 1911 can actually activate the firing pin and cause the weapon to fire. .....with NOTHING chambered? KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 .....with NOTHING chambered? KillJoy My mistake: Condition 0 - A round is in the chamber, hammer is cocked, and the safety is off. Condition 1 - Also known as "cocked and locked," means a round is in the chamber, the hammer is cocked, and the manual thumb safety on the side of the frame is applied. Condition 2 - A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down. Condition 3 - The chamber is empty and hammer is down with a charged magazine in the gun. Condition 4 - The chamber is empty, hammer is down and no magazine is in the gun. This being said, Condition 1 is safer than Condition 2. Obviously nothing in the chamber is safer than having a bullet chambered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 There are some people out there (just a few) that claim condition 2 is best on a 1911. I always carry condition 1. Want a real mind bender? Try to find a good video of the Israeli draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 My USP compact has no safety and is DA only. I always carry with a round in the chamber. There's really no reason not to. If you ever had to use it you'd be under so much stress to unholster the gun and aim, let alone trying to do that while racking the slide to chamber a round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptn janks Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 safer in the sense that you arent going to have a ND... probably. but safer in the sense that "im about to get killed and need to defend mysef"? no. you may not have enough time to rack the slide in a defense situation... maybe you just sustained an injury to your hand/arm whatever and CANT rack the slide, even if you wanted to... (maybe you could use your boot or belt) id rather not chance it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 you may not have enough time to rack the slide in a defense situation... maybe you just sustained an injury to your hand/arm whatever and CANT rack the slide, even if you wanted to... (maybe you could use your boot or belt) I've practiced chambering a round one handed off my jeans, its probably faster than using both hands to be honest. Just try to catch the rear sight on your pocket and shove the gun down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted January 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I've practiced chambering a round one handed off my jeans, its probably faster than using both hands to be honest. Just try to catch the rear sight on your pocket and shove the gun down. what caliber is your gun? that would never work with my 45, that spring is just to strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 buy a gun with more than one safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted January 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 buy a gun with more than one safety xd has 2 safeties, a grip and trigger edit: 3 safeties, also has an internal drop safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger1647545502 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I've practiced chambering a round one handed off my jeans, its probably faster than using both hands to be honest. Just try to catch the rear sight on your pocket and shove the gun down. Um, PLEASE use the word "Snap-cap" in clarifying how you practiced this..... What is the point of rendering a defensive weapon less usable in an emergency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptn janks Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 what caliber is your gun? that would never work with my 45, that spring is just to strong i can do it with my 1911. not ideal, but in a pinch it could work. IIRC they make rear sights that are made for catching on a boot or belt or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelloman4571647545499 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Both the Glock and XD when I carry. The sig was chambered but hammer down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 what caliber is your gun? that would never work with my 45, that spring is just to strong XD sub compact 9mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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