Trouble Maker Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I will admit, when I saw it, I shit my pants. I think this is the hearkening of diesels being main stream in the US, which I think is just cool But if it only gets 1MPG more (combined) than the Chevy Curze Eco, at probably thousands of dollars more, what's the point? http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/21/report-diesel-chevrolet-cruze-confirmed-for-u-s/ According to the crew at GMInsideNews, General Motors is mulling the notion of introducing a diesel Chevrolet Cruze to the American market. Sources within the Lordstown, Ohio assembly plant responsible for piecing the compact sedan together have confirmed that a diesel Cruze will be built for 2013. If that's not enough to wipe the stink of skepticism off your person, GMI says that additional sources within The General's engineering team have confirmed that an oil-burning Cruze is on the company's schedule. Production is rumored to kick off on the project at some point next year. There's even rumor that GM is currently testing diesel Cruze models around the greater Detroit area right now. While no power or fuel economy numbers are available at the moment, GM is expected to make use of a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine for the new model. That would be the same lump found in the Holden Cruze CDX, which turns out 147 horsepower and 235 pound-feet of torque with up to 34 miles per gallon combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverMaker Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 2.0LNF turbo 2-door Cruze please. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Leave it to them to screw up diesel. Sadly, it would be the only GM car I'd be interested in buying in a long time, if they get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Leave it to them to screw up diesel. Sadly, it would be the only GM car I'd be interested in buying in a long time, if they get it right. So here is the thing, I don't think they necessarily screwed it up. Looking on fueleconomy.gov, the top 3 diesels (for MPG) are the Golf, A3 and Jetta, all tied at 34mpg (combined). I think maybe they just did a really good job with the Eco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 So here is the thing, I don't think they necessarily screwed it up. Looking on fueleconomy.gov, the top 3 diesels (for MPG) are the Golf, A3 and Jetta, all tied at 34mpg (combined). I think maybe they just did a really good job with the Eco. Yes, ergo my still somewhat optimistic tone. Go look at real life fuel economy figures from some old Jetti / Golf TDI owners. 50-60mpg freeway is what keeps them in love with these cars for 300k+ miles. Mind you, I haven't driven a cruze, but I've heard good things about it's build quality, interior, ect. If it can match the Jetti TDI, for less money, I think it will be a hit. EDIT: Hell even if it costs about the same, some GM Brand loyalist and "die hard americans" can at least get an economical diesel sedan without feeling like they are supporting the nazi's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Yes, ergo my still somewhat optimistic tone. Go look at real life fuel economy figures from some old Jetti / Golf TDI owners. 50-60mpg freeway is what keeps them in love with these cars for 300k+ miles. Mind you, I haven't driven a cruze, but I've heard good things about it's build quality, interior, ect. If it can match the Jetti TDI, for less money, I think it will be a hit. EDIT: Hell even if it costs about the same, some GM Brand loyalist and "die hard americans" can at least get an economical diesel sedan without feeling like they are supporting the nazi's. haha, agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 ugh......tell me how this is f-ing possible uk version 2.0 - 68 mpg highway http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/golf-vi/which-model/engines/fuel-consumption/ u.s. version 2.0 - 41 mpg highway http://www.vw.com/en/models/golf/features_and_specs.s9_trimlevel_detail.suffix.html/2011_golf~2Ftdi_2-door.html#/tab=6ed9c6952728505dc13545b5a9dad73b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 UK = Imperial Gallon = 4.55 Litres US = US gallon = 3.79 Litres http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 ugh......tell me how this is f-ing possible uk version 2.0 - 68 mpg highway http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/golf-vi/which-model/engines/fuel-consumption/ u.s. version 2.0 - 41 mpg highway http://www.vw.com/en/models/golf/features_and_specs.s9_trimlevel_detail.suffix.html/2011_golf~2Ftdi_2-door.html#/tab=6ed9c6952728505dc13545b5a9dad73b all cars are not built equal even when its the same car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Pilot Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) Imperial gallon v. US gallon and the UK versions don't have as much emissions crap. Still the UK version gets about 55 mpg highway after the conversion. I get about 39-41 mixed and 45-46 highway in my 09 TDI. If I could stand to drive between 55-60 mph on the highway it would easily get 50, but the mpg's really starts to drop off above 65. Edited February 22, 2011 by Diesel Pilot beat to the punch on the conversions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 UK = Imperial Gallon = 4.55 Litres US = US gallon = 3.79 Litres http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon did not know. still +/- 55 mpg is way better. i just don't know why the u.s. car market doesn't have more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrmnhrm Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 i just don't know why the u.s. car market doesn't have more. One word: Chrysler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 One word: Chrysler Actually two words: Genearl Motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Actually two words: Genearl Motors. One word: Chrysler ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrmnhrm Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Actually two words: Genearl Motors. My bad... for some reason I was getting GM's travesty of a V8 mixed up with pre-Iacocca Chrysler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Saw that too...hoping for a stick shift, but not holding up TOO much hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 When will American car companies realize that chrome wheels are tacky? Chrome in general is tacky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Saw that too...hoping for a stick shift, but not holding up TOO much hope! It looks like it will be a pretty direct import with a 5 speed and auto option. If so, it's really promising. Still want an A8L V8 TDI or other large diesel cruiser. Maybe some day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04silvrz Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 do not want cavalier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 do not want cavalier. Do not want FagFiddyZee in thread. GTFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Where are they getting 34 mpg at? Seriously. My moms 05 Jetta TDi gets minimum 45 highway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Where are they getting 34 mpg at? Seriously. My moms 05 Jetta TDi gets minimum 45 highway. People usually observe much higher economy than stated on diesel for some reason. Especially on the old 1.9L. Find a 1.9L diesel bug and enjoy 55-60mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 People usually observe much higher economy than stated on diesel for some reason. Especially on the old 1.9L. Find a 1.9L diesel bug and enjoy 55-60mpg. And my dad owns one of those. 82 i think diesel rabbit. That car is so pimp. Cant wait to see it down in texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 And my dad owns one of those. 82 i think diesel rabbit. 82? Ouch, those are pre-TDI, IE: N/A Diesel. Prob ~45hp, but yes, crazy good on fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spam Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yea. Its slow as shit. Clanks like a main bearing is out and smokes like a train but he loves it. He is planning on putting the turbo conversion on it this summer. Bump output to 80 lol. Its just a fun car for him. He had one when he was my age and he found a clean one from Cali so he bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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