PRD2BDF Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 This is a hypothetical situation and I thought since we have some people who are cops or may be knowledgeable of the law. Some may know and some may not know. I was born Deaf and I use American Sign Language to communicate, in other words, I don't use my voice. I'm profoundly Deaf, I can't hear sirens even when it's right next to me... Which brings me to this. If I was approaching an intersection that has a green light for me. I cannot see the crossing roads due to buildings blocking the view. An ambulance or an emergency response vehicle is responding to a situation on the lane that will cross my path. If I was to hit him in the middle of the intersection, who would be at fault? I try not to play the Deaf card but I do not think I should be at fault since I cannot hear the sirens and I had a green light. (I know that having a green light doesn't mean anything but it tells me that I can go). Opinions are appreciated. Yes, I've had a few near calls because I didn't even seen them coming and I'm very alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Do you have trouble seeing the other cars around you stopped or the big red ambulance with flashing strobes on it moving towards you and not stopped? Not trying to be an ass, just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted April 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Like I said in my first post, the buildings blocks my views, I cannot see the cars approaching the intersections due to the buildings (quite a few of those in Lancaster) and let's say the road has very few cars they're behind me. But otherwise, yes, I can see lights, cars, objects around me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 yes, you're still at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Do you use your voice if you hit your thumb with a Hammer? KillJoy PS - Yes, you would probably be found at fault. The fight might come down to "if you cannot hear around you, should you be driving?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 You would be at fault. Try to avoid those intersections or slow down through them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Just from what I see, most ambulances and fire trucks slow down at those types of insections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ta Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Just from what I see, most ambulances and fire trucks slow down at those types of insections. yeah they have a duty to clear every intersection they go thru.... the officer on the scene may write you the ticket but I would bet the judge would overturn it once the facts are presented.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 You shouldn't be driving... hypothetically of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 get a radar detector that alerts for emergency vechicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 get a radar detector that alerts for emergency vechicles. :lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Just from what I see, most ambulances and fire trucks slow down at those types of insections. This...ive never seen them blow thru red lights...usually theyll slow down almost to a rolling stop equivilent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 yeah they have a duty to clear every intersection they go thru.... the officer on the scene may write you the ticket but I would bet the judge would overturn it once the facts are presented.... yes operators of safety equipment that are using beacon lights and audible siren are required to use due regard when going through an intersection. When you look up the state code of 4511.45 and city code 2131.21 which is the right of way for an emergency vehicle code it does not show an affirmative defense as being deaf. I would think a judge may waive the fine and just find you at fault in the accident. Either way its always fun to make your own case law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoMeSomeFun Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I can see where your coming from, lets just hope all intersection lights are red for you when an ambulance is coming thru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 I would not want to be deaf and trying to cross a street in Lancaster. Craziest drivers ever. Be safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Alot of fire and ems depts have it in there SOPs that you must come to a stop at every intersection police I don't know about. You'd be surprised by the studies that show how small of a difference going lights and sirens makes in a ambulance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spkcadet Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I was an EMT once upon a time, we were trained to slow down at intersections, specifically ones that we know have blind corners to them. As to who would be at fault I do not know however. Just speaking from the EMT aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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