zeitgeist57 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I think the biggest news from Apple is that they announced a dividend. Good or bad, that's a great way to get paid while holding onto the stock. Take a look at VNTV...Vantiv is the spinoff of FTPS (Fifth Third Processing Solutions). $17 IPO today...one of the largest credit card processors in the country. I'm slightly biased as I have been a 5/3 employee for a number of years, but this is a stock to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Apple is just like any other bubble. Wait til hipsters stop caring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Apple is just like any other bubble. Wait til hipsters stop caring. or all the mutual funds stop buying @ market price.. Almost every small and midcap mutual fund now owns AAPL. Everyone will be holding the bag at some point unless you take profits sooner then later. Dividend payments will crush the market cap. AS AAPL’s market cap declines, so does the allocation in cap-weighted indexes. Regardless whether that decline is driven by a change in investor sentiment towards the company or a special distribution of cash. Apple would be worth less if it were to suddenly shed tens of billions in market cap, so it would be reflected in index weightings. A dividend could result in ETF investors owning significantly less AAPL in their portfolios than they do now, effectively transferring that value to cash and the weightings within ETFs to other securities. talks of a 50$ dividend will payout 70 billion of their 100 billion in cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 ^^I understood about 20% of that, but get the point. Good info thoguh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 or all the mutual funds stop buying @ market price.. Almost every small and midcap mutual fund now owns AAPL. Everyone will be holding the bag at some point unless you take profits sooner then later. Dividend payments will crush the market cap. AS AAPL’s market cap declines, so does the allocation in cap-weighted indexes. Regardless whether that decline is driven by a change in investor sentiment towards the company or a special distribution of cash. Apple would be worth less if it were to suddenly shed tens of billions in market cap, so it would be reflected in index weightings. A dividend could result in ETF investors owning significantly less AAPL in their portfolios than they do now, effectively transferring that value to cash and the weightings within ETFs to other securities. talks of a 50$ dividend will payout 70 billion of their 100 billion in cash. Market cap = shares outstanding x share price. Cash reserves have nothing to do with market cap And where did you hear $50 dividend? That would be a damn near 8% yield and I haven't heard anything even close to that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Market cap = shares outstanding x share price. Cash reserves have nothing to do with market cap And where did you hear $50 dividend? That would be a damn near 8% yield and I haven't heard anything even close to that..... Typically the share price is based off Earnings per Share and shows how profitable a company is. This number is calculated by subtracting the dividends of a certain stock from the company's net income, and then dividing that number by the number of outstanding shares. This is probably the most important factor in determining the price of a share of stock. believe i read 50$ in an article on WSJ Monday but ive seen all kinds of diff #'s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 More like $2 something, and Aapl will use $70 billion to buy back some of the outstanding shares. That's what I have heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Anyone ever own stock with a company that filed chapter 11 and the stock was locked from trading? WAMUQ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Typically the share price is based off Earnings per Share and shows how profitable a company is. This number is calculated by subtracting the dividends of a certain stock from the company's net income, and then dividing that number by the number of outstanding shares. This is probably the most important factor in determining the price of a share of stock. believe i read 50$ in an article on WSJ Monday but ive seen all kinds of diff #'s I don't even know where to start. The anticipated dividend is $2.65 quarterly.... so $10.60 annually. (about 1/5th of what you are thinking) You are on the right track of thinking that EPS is important,... but it far from the sole driving factor. Have you ever seen a company listed with EPS = N/A.... That means the company doesn't turn a profit,.... however they still have value. Take SIRI for example. Not long ago the company had no EPS, yet still had a market Capitalization of over 4 Billion (closer to 8 billion now). I know where you are coming from on a theoretical basis though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 no way it has an 8% yield unless they are morons. you buy that stock for ridiculous growth potential, not the yield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Anyone ever own stock with a company that filed chapter 11 and the stock was locked from trading? WAMUQ? These stocks usually change to a different symbol and trade their way to 0. Take the old GM for example. The old GM shares turned into MTLQQ and dove into oblivian. New share's of GM were created thad had NOTHING to do with old shares. Common stock share holders are the LAST to be repaid during a bankruptcy, and lets face it,... if a company goes BK they are not liquid enough to pay back shareholders.... if they were, they wouldnt be in BK in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchi Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Here's a question then. How would one go about learning ( from entry level, no real knowledge at all ) how to do stocks? Basic ideas and whatnot. I'm sure there are websites out there on it but from what I've seen, seems like most of them are promoting THEIR method of doing it, not really basic education on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Here's a question then. How would one go about learning ( from entry level, no real knowledge at all ) how to do stocks? Basic ideas and whatnot. I'm sure there are websites out there on it but from what I've seen, seems like most of them are promoting THEIR method of doing it, not really basic education on it. investopedia.com is a good start to learn the essentials, and try your own methods via simulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Here's a question then. How would one go about learning ( from entry level, no real knowledge at all ) how to do stocks? Basic ideas and whatnot. I'm sure there are websites out there on it but from what I've seen, seems like most of them are promoting THEIR method of doing it, not really basic education on it. Start doing it on your own, watching some of the cnbc shows on it (fast money, mad money, after the bell, etc). Do simulators, read the news alot, subscribe to a good publication, etc. Its really about getting yourself in it really. To do it takes a fair amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Anyone ever own stock with a company that filed chapter 11 and the stock was locked from trading? WAMUQ? Hahaha, I used to work for WaMu. The good ole days, I made a ton of money on that stock in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Looks like its official: AAPL institute a quarterly dividend of $2.56 per share and buy back as much as $10 billion of its own stock in the next fiscal year. pretty low if u ask me. i suggest reading blogs from traders like http://abnormalreturns.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Forgot to mention I got some VNTV yesterday morning with the profits I made off of DRYS. Free IPO stock ftw, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 what do you guys think of SNPK. just to play around i dumped a couple hundred into it and its been doing awesome. but i think its going to peak real soon and then drop off fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 what do you guys think of SNPK. just to play around i dumped a couple hundred into it and its been doing awesome. but i think its going to peak real soon and then drop off fast Pump and dump trash. I'm not saying there isn't money to be made on the garbage places like "awesomepennystocks.com" pushes. I'm just saying you need to get in and out fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 Pump and dump trash. I'm not saying there isn't money to be made on the garbage places like "awesomepennystocks.com" pushes. I'm just saying you need to get in and out fast. thats what i am thinking but this company. but its looking pretty promising, just began distributing its exclusive shit to major retailers and is about to air its own commercials. do you think i should get out sooner than later or hold on to it for a little longer. it was kinda floating at 50-60 cents for a week or two and today it shot up to over 90cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 thats what i am thinking but this company. but its looking pretty promising, just began distributing its exclusive shit to major retailers and is about to air its own commercials. do you think i should get out sooner than later or hold on to it for a little longer. it was kinda floating at 50-60 cents for a week or two and today it shot up to over 90cents. Have you ever seen boiler room? SNPK really reminds me of that bullshit pharma stock they slammed everyone in. I could be wrong, and it could be the next PFE. I just get that feeling that I'm looking at a fake Rolex. Sounds and looks good. But I know in six months its just gonna be a worthless piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Holy crap, I must be some sort of oracle this year, lol. A couple of weeks ago I got GRPN at 10.18 and right now after hours trading has them at 13.79. Dang dang dang, I've been kicking ass this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 what do you guys think of SNPK. just to play around i dumped a couple hundred into it and its been doing awesome. but i think its going to peak real soon and then drop off fast Have you ever seen boiler room? SNPK really reminds me of that bullshit pharma stock they slammed everyone in. I could be wrong, and it could be the next PFE. I just get that feeling that I'm looking at a fake Rolex. Sounds and looks good. But I know in six months its just gonna be a worthless piece of shit. UPDATE: SNPK is down like 90% from a month ago. :lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 UPDATE: SNPK is down like 90% from a month ago. :lolguy: got in at .56 got out at 1.07 :lolguy::lolguy::lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 got in at .56 got out at 1.07 :lolguy::lolguy::lolguy: Cha-Ching! Only way to do it. In and out QUICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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