Dr. Apex Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 http://wot.motortrend.com/ford-design-head-says-2013-mustang-wont-be-retro-118729.html Plus the SVO may return with a 250hp ecoboost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hell, I'd take a 2011 5.0 w/ IRS.... If ford makes me buy a Mustang, I'm not sure what I'd do..:fuuuu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Apex Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's long overdue, though it's sad it took this long and they're only doing it so they can sell it overseas. With only U.S. sales it would likely stay a live axle but Ford wants to sell it to europe and some other places. Cool thing too is Ford says they will give it a newer, nicer interior with updated electronics....though I hear MyFord touch is a PITA to operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 hmmm that svo sounds goooooood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hopefully they put a good manual transmission in it. MT-82 = garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN94Z28 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I'd personally rather the solid axel, and wish the Camaro would have stayed that way too. It's an american car and if Europe wants it then they can buy it the American way, and with or without IRS they will because before you know it they're gonna wanna make it FWD too. It's just not the American Muscle car way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I'd personally rather the solid axel, and wish the Camaro would have stayed that way too. It's an american car and if Europe wants it then they can buy it the American way, and with or without IRS they will because before you know it they're gonna wanna make it FWD too. It's just not the American Muscle car way. lol :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 LOL...Europe doesn't buy them, that's the problem. They are trying to snag more of that market since the US Muscle car buyers will buy them regardless.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN94Z28 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 lol :dumb: It's a car that didn't have a purpose to be the most comfortable ride or to be the absolute best at a salom course. If you want an independent suspension then you're proly really not wanting a Mustang anyway, it's like comparing an STI to a Cobra. It's not for the same purpose and has different set ups for different reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Ford has very much impressed me with the handling they are capable of squeezing out of the current Live Rear Axle. I'd be all about an IRS Mustang, though I'm not sure why they couldn't sell both. Didn't some fbodies have IRS ? Maybe I'm wrong here with my fbody knowledge. I know, someone kick me in the balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN94Z28 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Ford has very much impressed me with the handling they are capable of squeezing out of the current Live Rear Axle. I'd be all about an IRS Mustang, though I'm not sure why they couldn't sell both. Didn't some fbodies have IRS ? Maybe I'm wrong here with my fbody knowledge. I know, someone kick me in the balls. I think they could most definitely make both, but it's about cost and human interest. It would take way more time and money to make both and more than likely it wouldn't pay off. But the current Fbody has IRS but I believe it's the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I'd personally rather the solid axel, and wish the Camaro would have stayed that way too. It's an american car and if Europe wants it then they can buy it the American way, and with or without IRS they will because before you know it they're gonna wanna make it FWD too. It's just not the American Muscle car way. It's a simple advancement that will improve the car in many ways. Sure, Ford could keep the live axle and while their there letting things be, why not go completely retro and ditch modern EFI and revert to a carburetor? Hell, ditch everything and bring back the flathead. If you want a 60's muscle car, buy a muscle car from the 60's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's a simple advancement that will improve the car in many ways. Sure, Ford could keep the live axle and while their there letting things be, why not go completely retro and ditch modern EFI and revert to a carburetor? Hell, ditch everything and bring back the flathead. If you want a 60's muscle car, buy a muscle car from the 60's. Finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's a simple advancement that will improve the car in many ways. Sure, Ford could keep the live axle and while their there letting things be, why not go completely retro and ditch modern EFI and revert to a carburetor? Hell, ditch everything and bring back the flathead. If you want a 60's muscle car, buy a muscle car from the 60's. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN94Z28 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's about making the change for the right reason. In 1988 Chevy decided to go with IFS in full size trucks. Some people liked the change: Better ride, smooth, better handling etc. but in turn when they traded it they lost that strength that is sometimes required in a HD full size truck. Dodge and Ford both recognized the system and used IFS in half tons while maintaining the straight in 3/4 ton and up. It's the same concept, if you made changes for the better while still recognizing some of the uses a Mustang is used for then that's gonna be the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's about making the change for the right reason. In 1988 Chevy decided to go with IFS in full size trucks. Some people liked the change: Better ride, smooth, better handling etc. but in turn when they traded it they lost that strength that is sometimes required in a HD full size truck. Dodge and Ford both recognized the system and used IFS in half tons while maintaining the straight in 3/4 ton and up. It's the same concept, if you made changes for the better while still recognizing some of the uses a Mustang is used for then that's gonna be the best option. Problem: Overseas sales are lagging Cause: Likely missing IRS Solution: Install IRS and increase sales Sounds like it's the right reason to me. You realize the IRS was installed in Mustangs in the past, and the only reason it wasn't put in all of them is due to weight? It is superior in many ways. Edit: Also, the Mustang is not a 3/4 ton truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourString Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 While there is no true definition, I think the term "muscle car" is thrown around too much. People tend to forget the concept of the "pony car". (e.g. Mustang, Camaro, Challenger) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trix-storm Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's a simple advancement that will improve the car in many ways. Sure, Ford could keep the live axle and while their there letting things be, why not go completely retro and ditch modern EFI and revert to a carburetor? Hell, ditch everything and bring back the flathead. If you want a 60's muscle car, buy a muscle car from the 60's. Not totally true. Some enthusiasts of the stang love live axel(let's be honest ford makes excellent and strong rear ends) for drag racing. Look at what most people do with 03-04 cobras when they get very fast, they put a live axel in it. Don't be so closed minded I know not everyone is going to buy a stang for straight line racing, but don't think that IRS is end all be all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Edit: Also, the Mustang is not a 3/4 ton truck. Of course not, 3/4 ton trucks have more modern suspensions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I think they just need to make solid rear ends an orderable option. Like a mini drag pack option. On the main subject though, I think it will be cool though seeing the Stang with an IRS. I've heard it and the camaro are both going smaller for there next redesigns, so it will be interesting to see how they perform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Apex Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Some enthusiasts of the stang love live axel(let's be honest ford makes excellent and strong rear ends) for drag racing. I know not everyone is going to buy a stang for straight line racing, but don't think that IRS is end all be all. "Some enthusiast", there's the key word. The live axle caters only to a small group of people these days. Most people that own mustangs could care less about the live axle and more about an all around comfortable performance car. The rest of the world is doing fine at the race track without live axles under their cars, Ford is finally getting with the times!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Cool thing too is Ford says they will give it a newer, nicer interior with updated electronics....though I hear MyFord touch is a PITA to operate. Yay a sporty car without a totally garbage econo-box interior Oh wait, the mustang just got $5k more expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Apex Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yay a sporty car without a totally garbage econo-box interior Oh wait, the mustang just got $5k more expensive Make it more than that in the next decade, Obama and the car makers just agreed to new CAFE standards for 2016 with an average of around 62mpg. More emissions controls, more mpgs = more money. While were doing better for the environment were adding a lot of cost to these vehicles so were certainly not saving ourselves any money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 If they do it, they better do it right. I've owned 3 gm irs cars and one from ford. Needless to say the irs is no longer in my cobra, and im having second thoughts about stuffing it in my new project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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