Patterson Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 So I've been gather up the last few parts to put the Summit back together, and obviously a wideband is high on the list. Looking around, find deals on used stuff and what-not. Cruising DSMTuners I find this: http://www.ecmtuning.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=60 Innovate LC-1 Wideband Kit $189.00 Click to enlarge Customers are always asking us what we recommend for a wideband kit. Well, we finally decided to answer that question once and for all. We use the Innovate LC-1 wideband on our own shop car and it works great. There are so many advantages over everything else that it's hard to pick a place to start. Innovate wideband kits respond to changes in mixture considerably faster than any others using a process called Direct Digital technology. To avoid making this page any longer than it already is, here's a link to Innovate's application note on the subject. The quick summary is that this is FAST. The Innovate LC-1 also includes a quick and simple free air calibration switch so that you KNOW the system is providing an accurate reading at all times. Innovate recommends doing a free air calibration once every 10,000 miles of daily driving or about every race weekend under hard use. CONTENTS: Each kit includes an LC-1 wideband controller, Bosch LSU4.2 wideband oxygen sensor, bung/plug kit and free air calibration switch along with a basic installation pamphlet. GAUGE: If you'd like a basic gauge for display as well, just select that option below. These are relatively simple gauges, but look nice too. Pictures are here. These are 52mm (2 1/16”) air fuel gauges. Each gauge features a bright LED (available in blue or red). INSTALL: Our recommended installation page is here. Some more general details on installation is provided in the LC-1 User Manual. Available Options: LC-1 Gauge: It's about the best deal I've found so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 So I've been gather up the last few parts to put the Summit back together, and obviously a wideband is high on the list. Looking around, find deals on used stuff and what-not. Cruising DSMTuners I find this: http://www.ecmtuning.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=60 It's about the best deal I've found so far. Thanks, I need me one of these doodads too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I need one but I dont want to clutter my interior with all these fooking gauges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 i believe the innovate MTX is cheaper just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjrsplat Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I used to have the exact wideband, now I have AEM. the AEM unit sucks in comparison IMO. Get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm not going to permanently mount mine. I hate even having the boost, oil, and trans temp out in the open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'm not going to permanently mount mine. I hate even having the boost, oil, and trans temp out in the open. I dont have boost and a 5.0L doesnt need oil pressure to run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 i believe the innovate MTX is cheaper just sayin I went back annd re-read it after I talked to you. Still have no idea what I was reading. If the MTX will serve as both NB, and WB, I'll get that one instead. Either one is a deal though. I dont have boost and a 5.0L doesnt need oil pressure to run Behold the power of Cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangman2011 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 There is a hand held display one too...not for permanent display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motozachl Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 aem is so troublesome to log in ecmlink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangman2011 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php It's the cheap in me. 500 is a lot of bones to spend on basically a Colt for a gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 So I've been gather up the last few parts to put the Summit back together, and obviously a wideband is high on the list. Looking around, find deals on used stuff and what-not. Cruising DSMTuners I find this: http://www.ecmtuning.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=60 It's about the best deal I've found so far. Does that include the gauge or is that what I'm adding on the options? If that's the case then DIY autotune has the lc-1 with a gauge for $199 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Does that include the gauge or is that what I'm adding on the options? If that's the case then DIY autotune has the lc-1 with a gauge for $199 as well. The gauge is an extra 10.00, but it looks like the MTX comes with the gauge for 189.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I misspoke, the LC-1 is 209 on DIYautotune. MTX looks appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Erik im 99% sure the MTX has a simulated narrowband. i can call and confirm if you want. Or you could just use my LM2 if you want when we tune the car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Depending on your tuning tool, I recommend getting the LC-1 and adding the XD-16 gage. It makes it very nice. You can have the gage to display real time while driving, with the tuning tool plug and play with the stereo cable out of the gage to your tuning/datalogging equipment for quick connect/disconnect. here was my setup while tuning: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c318/Juicedh22/zo6ftw/IMG_0837.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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