Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) jppaul16438 or John Palmer sent me 3 bottles of rocks instead of the 15 pmags i paid for. Im unable to search effectively enough to find the thread. I spent 442 via discrete paypal and im hoping to get it back. Also used chase cc thru paypal. from John Palmer to you Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags Hide Details From John Palmer To kramsey84@yahoo.com It was shipped fedex. Its insured for $400 Im not sure what to do, I never had this happen. -----Original Message----- From: k ramsey <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:25 pm Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags So, what is the plan? is there a claim to be filed with ups? Thanks, Kris From: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> To: kramsey84@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:24 PM Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags The mags were in the box when it was shipped. I been a member for 5 years with 100% feedback. Why would I risk it for mags? Something happen to the box from the timed it shipped. -----Original Message----- From: k ramsey <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags I opened the box to not find mags? Thanks, From: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> To: kramsey84@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:04 PM Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags What are you talking about? -----Original Message----- From: k ramsey <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 11:41 am Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags what happened? Thanks, From: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> To: kramsey84@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags Ill be shipping them tomorrow, Ill send the tracking asap -----Original Message----- From: kramsey84 <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Feb 11, 2013 1:33 pm Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags Any way I can get the tracking number? Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint ----- Reply message ----- From: "John Palmer" <jppaul16438@aol.com> To: <kramsey84@yahoo.com> Subject: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 4:24 PM jppaul16438@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: kramsey84 <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 4:22 pm Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags What's your papal address? Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE exclusively from Sprint ----- Reply message ----- From: "John Palmer" <jppaul16438@aol.com> To: <kramsey84@yahoo.com> Subject: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 3:58 PM total would be $420 + 5 for insurance + 16.80 for paypal fees total 441.80 -----Original Message----- From: k ramsey <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 2:10 pm Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags I will take them all. whats the total you want me to send via payal with insurance? Thanks, From: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> To: kramsey84@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:57 PM Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags The mags are yours, I also found 5 more if your interested for an extra $140, Let me know anm Ill mark them sold. -----Original Message----- From: k ramsey <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 11:03 am Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags Cool, just let me know. Thanks, From: John Palmer <jppaul16438@aol.com> To: kramsey84@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 10:50 AM Subject: Re: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags im waiting to heatr back from someone, Im only going to give him a couple more hours then you can have them. -----Original Message----- From: kramsey84 <kramsey84@yahoo.com> To: jppaul16438 <jppaul16438@aol.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 9:44 am Subject: AR15.Com Email :: 98dirtybird :: pmags I assume these are 30 rounders, if so i will take them. Sorry for the im and email. But im ready to order now. thanks, kris --------------------------------------------------------- Email Generated From: AR15.Com http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_24/1119454_New_Black__PMAGS_with_Window.html dude had 60 positive and been a memeber since 08. http://i49.tinypic.com/119x8c8.jpg Edited February 16, 2013 by Ramsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0nk3y Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Wow. That's unbelievable. GL with the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 What kind of rocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhop Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 jppaul16438 or John Palmer sent me 3 bottles of rocks instead of the 15 pmags i paid for. Im unable to search effectively enough to find the thread. I spent 442 via discrete paypal and im hoping to get it back. You mean he literally mailed you 3 bottles full of rocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 You mean he literally mailed you 3 bottles full of rocks? 2 clear and 1 green bottle of what looks to be rock salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 empty your paypal acct and report him for selling firearm accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGU Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 since you sent discrete your screwed paypal wont care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 If he shipped it US Mail, wouldn't that constitute mail fraud, a federal pound me in the ass offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 since you sent discrete your screwed paypal wont care. I didnt send as a gift, just didnt mention mags. I sent as goods/service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) If he shipped it US Mail, wouldn't that constitute mail fraud, a federal pound me in the ass offense? he sent FedEx via pony express. Edit. Edited February 15, 2013 by Ramsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Pilot Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 First off, that sucks. Open a dispute with PayPal. I don't know if it will help, but it can't hurt. https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/buyer-protection-resolution Read through the EE essentials link on AR15.com at the top of the EE HERE You might find your answer in there but I would believe AR15.COM can't do anything but ban the seller. Sucks that people are taking advantage of the current situation, but you shouldn't be paying $30 for PMAGS anyway. There are tons of places to get them, you just have to be patient. Watch the AIMSURPLUS forum in the evenings. They always post what is going up on sale the second it does, and they don't start posting the good stuff until about 6 or 7pm. They have put up numerous 30 round mags already this week between C-Products and Lancer. Last week was Troy and PMAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 First off, that sucks. Open a dispute with PayPal. I don't know if it will help, but it can't hurt. https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/buyer-protection-resolution Read through the EE essentials link on AR15.com at the top of the EE HERE You might find your answer in there but I would believe AR15.COM can't do anything but ban the seller. Sucks that people are taking advantage of the current situation, but you shouldn't be paying $30 for PMAGS anyway. There are tons of places to get them, you just have to be patient. Watch the AIMSURPLUS thread in the evenings. They always post what is going up on sale the second it does, and they don't start posting the good stuff until about 6 or 7pm. They have put up numerous 30 round mags already this week between C-Products and Lancer. Last week was Troy and PMAG. thank you. after shipping and paypal fees 29.50 didnt seem too terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I would file the dispute with PayPal. Just empty out your account first. You're not supposed to be using them for firearm related sales so they may block your account. They'll block his too and hold any funds in it. At least he can't spend your money this way and you may get your money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I would file the dispute with PayPal. Just empty out your account first. You're not supposed to be using them for firearm related sales so they may block your account. They'll block his too and hold any funds in it. At least he can't spend your money this way and you may get your money back. he is replying now and saying he shipped mags. replying to both email and ar15. I paid for insurance, is this covered? is it possible that ups fucked us? I also paid using a cc thru paypal, so i assume i can cancel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 he is replying now and saying he shipped mags. replying to both email and ar15. I paid for insurance, is this covered? is it possible that ups fucked us? I also paid using a cc thru paypal, so i assume i can cancel it. You should be able to cancel this with your CC, or at least hold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFKINPowerz Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Had that happen to a buddy. They sent him rolls of packing tape though. Your pretty much screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 he is replying now and saying he shipped mags. replying to both email and ar15. I paid for insurance, is this covered? is it possible that ups fucked us? I also paid using a cc thru paypal, so i assume i can cancel it. I would be so pissed I don't think I would be able to type, shit I'm pissed about the situation and it didn't even happen to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Damn that is fucked up Chris. If i were you id find this guys address (easier than you might think) and go get my mags. UPS didn't fuck this up. Fuck theives/crooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 That's so fucked up. GLWR (good luck with revenge) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I highly doubt UPS messed you up on this one. I would take action with PayPal and your CC company. I know that Citi would take care of this type of thing and get your funds back to you. PayPal will close his account if you report that he is using them for selling firearm stuff. Sounds like the seller screwed you and is delaying you from filing with PP so he can get his funds. Or... someone got a hold of his account and is posting on his behalf. I had some mags get lost in the mail recently by USPS. The company took care of it though. Good luck getting this worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Fuckin lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macpyro2 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Damn that is fucked up Chris. If i were you id find this guys address (easier than you might think) and go get my mags. UPS didn't fuck this up. Fuck theives/crooks. This is very easy to do... Getting ahold of AR15.com would be my first action then a big thread on how much you got screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Here is your man: (only pic i could find) http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-9NvBb_9Z0zNzO2DUH2iHSXLoBVkhvRXGKZpKFWpPBoi2vZbb9NvKFPNZByFTBpKGqYY6/john-palmer.jpg He is the Sr. Product Manager at GE Transportation 2901 East Lake Road Erie, PA 16531 (814) 875-2234 His residence 4011 Greenway Dr Erie, PA 16506-4061 Home (814) 833-6908 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Damn that is fucked up Chris. If i were you id find this guys address (easier than you might think) and go get my mags. UPS didn't fuck this up. Fuck theives/crooks. ramsey, I agree with this... lets go get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Here is your man: (only pic i could find) http://m3.licdn.com/mpr/pub/image-9NvBb_9Z0zNzO2DUH2iHSXLoBVkhvRXGKZpKFWpPBoi2vZbb9NvKFPNZByFTBpKGqYY6/john-palmer.jpg He is the Sr. Product Manager at GE Transportation 2901 East Lake Road Erie, PA 16531 (814) 875-2234 His residence 4011 Greenway Dr Erie, PA 16506-4061 Home (814) 833-6908 I highly doubt this is the man. Sombody had to hack his account or mess with the shipping en route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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