Diamonds Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Yup, A buddy of mine. He disconnected his front drive shaft at the advice of CTD to make it RWD......apparently not a good idea. He is unhurt, but he ego is bruised. He is a good guy but cold tires got the best of him. I don't know how I feel about that comment. Who are you noting as liable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbotrio Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Millions of dollars and years of development went into producing a top-notch performance car with a certain set of specifications. Why people feel the need to mess with success without considering the ramifications and addressing them is beyond me. For the relatively nominal power gain at the wheels? I don't remember the exact #s but from memory Wiggs' car went from high 500s (58x?) AWD to low 600s (62x?) RWD. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 For the relatively nominal power gain at the wheels? I don't remember the exact #s but from memory Wiggs' car went from high 500s (58x?) AWD to low 600s (62x?) RWD. Jeff It's funny because neither HP amount is totally useable on public roads, and in most cases only a professional driver would be able to push the RWD car noticeably faster around a track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Too bad. I wonder what the salvage buy-back price will be. Tell your friend, not to worry about his pride, even the best have accidents every now and then. Hopefully he learned his lesson on not to take his car to a car with no reputation, or in this case, a shop with a gaining negative reputation. As well as the normal lesson of when/where to get crazy on a public road. At least the damage was limited to his own property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewtoys Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=407351609329476&set=pb.274360962628542.-2207520000.1366649264.&type=3&theater Looked 200x better stock. The matte look only fits clapped out foxbodys :fuuuu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanB Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Unfortunate mishap, but hopefully that Lambo will be back up and running soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Speed S4 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Looked 200x better stock. The matte look only fits clapped out foxbodys :fuuuu: I thought the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanB Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Looked 200x better stock. The matte look only fits clapped out foxbodys :fuuuu: 100% AGREE!!! Matte looks like it's a toy, not an exotic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 +1 You should never go matte when you already have beautiful paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBMW Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 If someone tells you or recommends you do this, you automatically assume liability by doing so. I understand that to a point. I am not a lawyer (thank god) but have to wonder how strongly this would hold up in court. For example, if you told me/recommended me to jump off of my roof and I did, resulting in the breaking of my leg, that you would be liable for my medical bills and pain and suffering? Or keeping with the car theme...you tell me to turbo my car as opposed to S/C and I blow my engine at the track... will you be writing me a check for a rebuild? Either way I would have to assume CTD has a hold harmless agreement or liability waiver that their customers would sign. If not, I hope your friend owns his shop -Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFKINPowerz Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 I think this is the same guy that was at cvg car show last year bitching about dwiggs installing exhaust on it and the check engine light comming on, wiggs telling him that's normal after mods. Then he took more advice from that douchebag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't understand why converting it to rwd makes it an instant death trap, there are other rwd cars in the world.. I mean unless the conversion specifically on a lambo is something that does make them super unsafe? Exactly. I'm sure they may've advised him to do it but told him it was at his own risk and cost. The fact anyone would even question if it were CTD's fault completely disgusts me and hopefully people can understand why or I give up all hope. lol It's crazy how people behave. There are so many things you wouldn't just jump into given little to no experience. You don't decide to fly and immediately jump into a jumbo jet and scream, "I'm a pro!", then promptly crash it. You don't decide, I got into a fight once in middle school so I'm heading directly to the championship fight in the UFC! Or, maybe you do and you get lucky somehow and do get to "jump ahead". Well, when it inevitably all collapses in on itself like so much dying star, you'd better take f'n responsibility for yourself. I don't know the exact situation of the gentelman who was unlucky enough to wreck his exotic (no matter the mods). But it made me think about what I commented on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quicksand Jesus Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 For the relatively nominal power gain at the wheels? I don't remember the exact #s but from memory Wiggs' car went from high 500s (58x?) AWD to low 600s (62x?) RWD. Jeff Does it actually increase the 60-130 or 1/4 mile times? Or is it just a different reading on the dyno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFo Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Too bad. I wonder what the salvage buy-back price will be. Tell your friend, not to worry about his pride, even the best have accidents every now and then. Hopefully he learned his lesson on not to take his car to a car with no reputation, or in this case, a shop with a gaining negative reputation. As well as the normal lesson of when/where to get crazy on a public road. At least the damage was limited to his own property. Are you calling yourself the best? :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Are you calling yourself the best? :dumb: I am definitely one that learned that lesson the hard way... And yes, I am the best. Pretty much the best I know of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 I am definitely one that learned that lesson the hard way... And yes, I am the best. Pretty much the best I know of... You don't know much, Junior. :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Damn that sucks!!! I saw car prowling around Easton...Sounded damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 The fact that this guy got talked into taking out his front driveshaft by CTD tells you what kind of person he is :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 I am definitely one that learned that lesson the hard way... And yes, I am the best. Pretty much the best I know of... The best my dick. I challenge you any day......and day....Dayton FTW damn non driving Cincy boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Friend posted on FB that she saw this while driving. I almost posted here but didnt have enough info and figured itd be posted eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 The best my dick. I challenge you any day......and day....Dayton FTW damn non driving Cincy boy. shouldnt you be checking parallel to a painted wall somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Yup, A buddy of mine. He disconnected his front drive shaft at the advice of CTD to make it RWD......apparently not a good idea. He is unhurt, but he ego is bruised. He is a good guy but cold tires got the best of him. This HAS to be a freakin joke....:lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Kinda what I was thinking. Also, maybe the owners get brave with the AWD not knowing the car is taking care of most of their hooning, then go to RWD and try the same stuff thinking they can handle it. I think we have a winner here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Either way I would have to assume CTD has a hold harmless agreement or liability waiver that their customers would sign. Regardless this seems, from what little we know, to have happened from driver error. It would be another story if something that CTD broke then caused this wreck. I really think a form filled out shouldn't effect the legalities of the situation too much. But I'm sure CTD would be in much better shape if something like this were to go to court if they had a hold harmless waver. All of the TCS/AYC settings are going to be based on the vehicle characteristics of it being AWD. At the very least that system wouldn't work the way it's intended and would/could cause the system to not be able to keep the car in check/stable when someones right foot goes too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin Miata Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Saying CTD is liable here is akin to holding someone liable for your speeding ticket because they installed a turbocharger on your car. CTD didn't push this driver's foot to the ground. He'll be found at fault for the accident and hopefully learn a lesson from it all. Definitely could've been worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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