slowyota Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Hey guys, ive been wanting to do something different with my 1.8t A4 quattro since the stock motor is weak sauce. i know i could do a larger turbo, but that sounds dull, i could do a twin turbo S4 V6 motor swap, but i could just buy an S4 and call it done, so i came to the conclusion, V8 swap it!! So basically, heres my A4, its of the 2001 vintage http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/2012-08-04150206.jpg the v8 is coming courtesy of a 2000 A6 4.2 V8 that i picked up off craigslist for a steal, with a bad auto tranny http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131115_123633_zps8caea80f.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131116_153509_zps4084f061.jpg so, first things first, i cut off the exhaust on the A6 right after the X pipe, so i could hear the bad ass symphony that motor creates a nice video of it. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/th_20131116_162309_zps5a9fc527.jpg So basically, to make this swap work, i will need a clutch/flywheel setup from a Audi v6, so i can retain my A4's 5 speed manual, i will need to repin a few wires, i will be keeping A/C, P/S and cruise, all of which to transfer over, and have the ecu flashed so its not looking for an auto trans when it will have a manual behind it. i know it will not be fast, but i will be going from the 1.8t (170 hp) to a 4.2 v8 (310 hp) so it will be fun, especially with awd and a manual. i want to do this because the A4 never came with a V8 and i will be using almost all factory Audi parts to make this work, which i think is kinda cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 :megusta: dat sound. Keep us updated with tons of pics please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Ive seen similar swaps on vwvortex. looks like you got a good start. all i can say is good luck and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 how long is your trans going to last with a 140hp increase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowyota Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 how long is your trans going to last with a 140hp increase? i am going to rebuild with carbon syncros, but the 01A 5 speed, has been proven reliable at 500 whp, so making 310 crank i am not worried, and if i do break it, i have a spare and they r cheap also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc1647545523 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 It sounds pretty ambitious, but I know you're dauntless. I look forward to seeing it finished. :thumbup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Keep the 1.8T badge on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowyota Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Keep the 1.8T badge on it. ive been debating that....it will be blatantly obvious from the sound, i already pulled the 4.2 badge off the A6, we shall see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 i am going to rebuild with carbon syncros, but the 01A 5 speed, has been proven reliable at 500 whp, so making 310 crank i am not worried, and if i do break it, i have a spare and they r cheap also Sounds good. If you need anyone to stand around and drink beer while you swap it let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 i am going to rebuild with carbon syncros, but the 01A 5 speed, has been proven reliable at 500 whp, so making 310 crank i am not worried, and if i do break it, i have a spare and they r cheap also The gearing is going to be pretty short for that motor, will be cranking on the highway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowyota Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 The gearing is going to be pretty short for that motor, will be cranking on the highway i will be installing a Euro spec TDI 5th gear, people who have already done the swap report fuel mileage as about the same as the 1.8t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Why not a 01E trans, $$$$? Just curious, it was what came to mind before you even stated which trans you were going to use but I don't know any of the technical details. I assume it would bolt up, was probably the manual option in v8 4-chassis sized cars (b6&b7)? Looks like a cool swap, good luck! How do those motors take to boost? Maybe an option down the road if you get bored with the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Why not a 01E trans This. I've seen them go for dirt cheap. Then you can also add the Euro TDI 6th gear to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFo Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'd have done a VR6 + turbo myself. Anyway should be a cool project when done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowyota Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 This. I've seen them go for dirt cheap. Then you can also add the Euro TDI 6th gear to that. to make a 01E work, i would need to by rear diff, driveshaft, the trans itself, linkage, front axles, mounts, and a few other items, so $$$$ But the biggest reason is that i would need to run the spacer, and i will lose almost 12mm of space up front, which doesnt sound like a lot, but its the difference of being able to fit a fan between the radiator and motor and not being able to. Also, the 01A has been proven reliable to 500 awhp and they are plentiful and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowyota Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'd have done a VR6 + turbo myself. Anyway should be a cool project when done. ive considered it, the VR6 sounds very nasty and can make gobs of power, but the purchase price for all the components would literally be in the 10k range, after turbo bits... and im not going for all out power, obviously its an Audi, just want nice torque and bad ass v8 sound, a fun daily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowyota Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Looks like a cool swap, good luck! How do those motors take to boost? Maybe an option down the road if you get bored with the power. thanks man! Ive only read of a few people going turbo, and biggest problem is tuning, not many companies offer anything for the V8, and with aluminum block and steel liners people at varying power levels have cracked them, which i contribute to inadequate tuning. But some who have dumped tons of money in them have made great power, they are all forged internals. There are supercharger options, but at about $6k, i will stay all motor for now. maybe a 75 shot if i get bored haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Sounds like a cool project, please take lots of pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I ignored this thread a few times under "new posts" because I assumed it was some kid asking stupid questions about a V8 swap, lol. Clearly you've done your research and have a good plan. The car looks boss as is, the V8 sound and power will be awesome. I like that you're keeping it simple for the most part, I think it'll make for a well rounded car in the end. An sexy AWD sedan with a V8 and a manual, what's not to love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 to make a 01E work, i would need to by rear diff, driveshaft, the trans itself, linkage, front axles, mounts, and a few other items, so $$$$ But the biggest reason is that i would need to run the spacer, and i will lose almost 12mm of space up front, which doesnt sound like a lot, but its the difference of being able to fit a fan between the radiator and motor and not being able to. Also, the 01A has been proven reliable to 500 awhp and they are plentiful and cheap. I see why you're sticking with the A. Yeah you don't want the engine being any further forward than what it already is. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 FWIW, there is a guy here in downtown C'Bus that has a black S4. It's clearly a V8, and even with thick high-rise windows I hear him pipe up from the stoplight and it sounds FUGGIN' AWESOME... Righteous project. Keep up the good work! :thumbup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowyota Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 little update, I removed the motor and trans from the A6, took about 3 hours, which i didnt think was to bad for my first time. Also that motor and auto trans combo is crazy long. haha i sepaerated the motor/trans, and got the motor on a engine stand, cleaned it up and started disassembly. removed harness and coolant hoses, intake manifold, and of course both flaps are stuck, i did a leak down test and only got 1% leakage so i am super happy with the motors health. unfortunately both cam chain tensioners are shot, so gonna have to drop money in new ones... i pulled the pan, nice and clean, other than chunks of plastic for tensioner pads that made it to the bottom. i then removed the heads so i can port them and replace valve guides and nice fresh valve job. and some pics: http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131205_185345_zpsa897867b.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131205_211445_zpsb3e1e7d8.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131205_223222_zpsce08782c.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131209_195455_zps3727d2e0.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131209_195534_zps309f8872.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131210_193352_zps6b7a69bb.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131210_193343_zpsfe8c2959.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/jack_weisenburger_2006/20131205_211439_zps871adb74.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourString Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Awesome! Should be fun when you're done. I'm surprised that the "YUNOLS?!" nutswingers haven't been losing their shit in here yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Awesome! Should be fun when you're done. I'm surprised that the "YUNOLS?!" nutswingers haven't been losing their shit in here yet. Because not rotary. :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Needs a snail to go with that motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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