PRD2BDF Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Will be ordering a tuning package for the Saab and tune it at the end of the month after prepping the car (new plugs and transmission fluid change) Stock: 250 hp and 258 tq Post-tune: 320 hp and 409 tq Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Get it dyno'd at DTM and report back afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Get it dyno'd at DTM and report back afterwards. Yup ^ Post your dyno sheet proudly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Okay. I don't see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1647545493 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 What all is in the "Tuning Package"? I've been looking at Saab's and Volvo's to replace the wife's Trans am soon. I would love to know what your doing to get those numbers. How's your MPG going to be affected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Basically a programmer that holds your original tune so you can revert back to stock if needed. Comes with three tunes: normal, mild, and aggressive. Also can alter wheel size for speedometer and raise the speed limiter. The factory tune is so restrained and the tune simply removes the restraints and this is what the motor naturally produces without any mods other than colder plugs. Mine is the 2.8T V6. Gets about 20 in city and 25-29 highway. I suggest the 2.0T, it's much more economical (my old one got 38 mpg highway). Edit: and with the tune, mpg actually increases a couple provided you're not flooring it every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 So what is going to be the weak link that breaks with 150tq increase? The factory limits the car for a reason, whether its to increase the longevity of certain parts, emissions, or some other reason. It's good to know why it doesn't make more power from the factory. Don't get me wrong making more power is cool, and I'm all for it, I just don't want to see your car broken in a few months. Take my Camaro for example, I removed the limiters and it broke the flexplate. Pretty soon the trans stared slipping, not to mention all the weak stock rear axle issues. 4th gen f-bodies were a case of putting a V6 drivetrain behind a good running V8. However you take my Miata and you don't have those issues, the stock tuning and related stuff limits stuff due to emissions, and you have to try to break stuff as the car can be pushed on the stock parts for awhile. Just my two cents, I wish you good luck modding your Saab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 The engine and transmission has been proven to handle up to 400 hp before doing any major work. Many people have this tune for over 50-60,000 plus miles and had no issues. I don't foresee any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 How much does your car weigh? You might finally be able to beat a VW with those power levels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 So what is going to be the weak link that breaks with 150tq increase? The factory limits the car for a reason, whether its to increase the longevity of certain parts, emissions, or some other reason. It's good to know why it doesn't make more power from the factory. Don't get me wrong making more power is cool, and I'm all for it, I just don't want to see your car broken in a few months. Take my Camaro for example, I removed the limiters and it broke the flexplate. Pretty soon the trans stared slipping, not to mention all the weak stock rear axle issues. 4th gen f-bodies were a case of putting a V6 drivetrain behind a good running V8. However you take my Miata and you don't have those issues, the stock tuning and related stuff limits stuff due to emissions, and you have to try to break stuff as the car can be pushed on the stock parts for awhile. Just my two cents, I wish you good luck modding your Saab. This and I HIGHLY recomend taking it to a dyno after you get the tune. The reason is that a canned tune is not the same as a full on dyno tune. There might be an issue you are not aware of with the car, add a canned tune to the mix and you will have wear issues or worse. I almost did the same thing but took my car to Dyno Brian before I knew better. He threw the car on the dyno and found my car was deadly lean due to an issue I was not aware of. If I would have put the canned tune in the car it could have been bad. Just something to think about, I would hate to see you kill your car for no good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Flash it ON the dyno! Do a stock baseline dyno run, throw on you tune and let the motor cool for a few minutes, then make a tuned run. Get boost and A/F readings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 That will be slightly noticeable...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 That will be slightly noticeable...... Yes, in the form of front tire smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yes, in the form of front tire smoke. http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/image.php?u=35&dateline=1389625161 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 How much does your car weigh? You might finally be able to beat a VW with those power levels! About 3,600-3,700 pounds. It's a fatty. I think the only noticeable difference will be the torque steer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 What all is in the "Tuning Package"? I've been looking at Saab's and Volvo's to replace the wife's Trans am soon. I would love to know what your doing to get those numbers. How's your MPG going to be affected? More boost and timing, that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 So what is going to be the weak link that breaks with 150tq increase? The factory limits the car for a reason, whether its to increase the longevity of certain parts, emissions, or some other reason. It's good to know why it doesn't make more power from the factory. Don't get me wrong making more power is cool, and I'm all for it, I just don't want to see your car broken in a few months. Take my Camaro for example, I removed the limiters and it broke the flexplate. Pretty soon the trans stared slipping, not to mention all the weak stock rear axle issues. 4th gen f-bodies were a case of putting a V6 drivetrain behind a good running V8. However you take my Miata and you don't have those issues, the stock tuning and related stuff limits stuff due to emissions, and you have to try to break stuff as the car can be pushed on the stock parts for awhile. Just my two cents, I wish you good luck modding your Saab. Biggest limiting factor in a manual car is clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Basically a programmer that holds your original tune so you can revert back to stock if needed. Comes with three tunes: normal, mild, and aggressive. Also can alter wheel size for speedometer and raise the speed limiter. The factory tune is so restrained and the tune simply removes the restraints and this is what the motor naturally produces without any mods other than colder plugs. Mine is the 2.8T V6. Gets about 20 in city and 25-29 highway. I suggest the 2.0T, it's much more economical (my old one got 38 mpg highway). Edit: and with the tune, mpg actually increases a couple provided you're not flooring it every time. Why are you not having Dyno Brian do a custom tune on it? What's nice about the newer Saab is you can use HP Tuners just like a GM car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Why are you not having Dyno Brian do a custom tune on it? What's nice about the newer Saab is you can use HP Tuners just like a GM car. Goodness. I just figured Saabs couldn't do that since he was looking at a off the shelf tune... Knowing this, there is ZERO reason not to do just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Goodness. I just figured Saabs couldn't do that since he was looking at a off the shelf tune... Knowing this, there is ZERO reason not to do just that. ^Uhh Yeah. Cody, if you don't go to Brian, we will chase you with pitchforks, just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Goodness. I just figured Saabs couldn't do that since he was looking at a off the shelf tune... Knowing this, there is ZERO reason not to do just that. Yeah, that is what I'm thinking. Paying the money for a good tune >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Man I hate torque steer. Never again for me. Had a GTI 1.8t and it was not terrible but noticeable and it was slow. Got a 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 which redefined torque steer for me. First time I punched it I thought I broke something as the steering wheel tried to detach my hands and it headed for the ditch...then the middle lane. I was like WTF? Ohhhhh so that is torque steer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Man I hate torque steer. Never again for me. Had a GTI 1.8t and it was not terrible but noticeable and it was slow. Got a 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 which redefined torque steer for me. First time I punched it I thought I broke something as the steering wheel tried to detach my hands and it headed for the ditch...then the middle lane. I was like WTF? Ohhhhh so that is torque steer. Excellent description.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Well bring the pitchforks then because at the time of the posting, I ordered the tune already. I chose this company for a reason. I don't have to worry about the clutch as it is an autotragic as some of you aptly put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Well bring the pitchforks then because at the time of the posting, I ordered the tune already. I chose this company for a reason. I don't have to worry about the clutch as it is an autotragic as some of you aptly put it. :dumb: INB4 "No gains, seems worse, engine blown, etc." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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