Versluis Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Article from todays Dispatch Says he was merging into traffic from the Avery rd on-ramp. Could be. The information was shared through a family friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinwebb Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 There is a pic on reddit right now with his head on the ground. Wish I would have left that link blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicranium Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 There is a pic on reddit right now with his head on the ground. Wish I would have left that link blue. Couldn't believe that when I saw it. One of the top posts on all of reddit is about this wreck... Here's the link for anyone interested... http://i.imgur.com/tdtxJ0w.jpg I'm pretty desensitized by internet stuff but I know a lot of others may not be but the picture isn't the greatest quality... look in the grass maybe 7-8 feet off the road and you'll see the light-colored object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 I see it, but you have to question if it's Photoshopped... However, a pic of the wreck pre-tarp tells me that it might be legit...:no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Borgen Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I see it, but you have to question if it's Photoshopped... However, a pic of the wreck pre-tarp tells me that it might be legit...:no: I don't doubt at all that's legit also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewtoys Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 I always get curious and click, wish I didn't eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Very sad either way, but I'm inclined to be skeptical of online photos these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Yes I do, and that was the first thing g that came to my mind. I absolutely hate those cable barriers. They're like a giant cheese grader at speed. They do seem quite nasty. They need to have a larger diameter sleeve or something around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Borgen Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 My understanding is that these wire fences, because of the tensile requirements of the cables, are more expensive than Jersey Barriers to install. They're maybe less to upkeep when damaged though, so I dunno Motorcycle riders hate them because of things like this happening. Also, a coworker of mine, who lunches with me, told me he saw the head himself as he was driving by there on Saturday afternoon/evening, before 1st responders had even gone by. That was way before I had even heard of the story on the news or seen that photo or anything (I was at a wedding in Cincy) He probably went quickly, and barely felt a thing. I don't know if he decided to off himself or if he simply ran out of talent and just lost control since that 1st gen Viper is known to be tough to handle and very spartan. It doesn't help that it didn't have Traction Control or ABS. RIP, random family man I didn't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) double Edited August 18, 2014 by Stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC K9 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Picture of the wreck before the highway was closed. WARNING: DECAPITATION click at your own risk http://i.imgur.com/tdtxJ0w.jpg wow...gruesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 as seen 7 posts before yours.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Whoa. I thought that was litter at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Motorcycle riders hate them because of things like this happening. Not a rider and not trying to be a jerk, but would someone fair better smashing into concrete at high speeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not a rider and not trying to be a jerk, but would someone fair better smashing into concrete at high speeds? Maybe. These things are similar to those junk ass ARMCO metal guardrails, and you are not better slamming into those at high speeds. There is a reason the NHRA has outlawed the use of those metal guardrails, they are not safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Maybe. These things are similar to those junk ass ARMCO metal guardrails, and you are not better slamming into those at high speeds. There is a reason the NHRA has outlawed the use of those metal guardrails, they are not safe. That makes sense. Also, I was referring to those stating bikers hate them. I mean, I can see why, but if you're on a bike hitting cable or concrete would yield similar results at high speeds (say 100+ MPH) I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanB Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Damn, what a shame. I drive next to those wires every day and they always seem dangerous, sad to hear they took someone's life now, in the most gruesome way possible, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 That makes sense. Also, I was referring to those stating bikers hate them. I mean, I can see why, but if you're on a bike hitting cable or concrete would yield similar results at high speeds (say 100+ MPH) I would think. I would rather take my chances hitting a jersey barrier that might move and spread the energy out vs a cable that will act like a cheese cutter or an ARMCO guard rail that acks like a jousting device. I have seen those ARMCO guard rails cut though cars and people at the drag strip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 That makes sense. Also, I was referring to those stating bikers hate them. I mean, I can see why, but if you're on a bike hitting cable or concrete would yield similar results at high speeds (say 100+ MPH) I would think. The cables act like a knife, or a cheese slicer at speed. You could be doing the speed limit, or less, and still get cut to pieces by them. A solid barrier would be much better to hit, of you had a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 The cables act like a knife, or a cheese slicer at speed. You could be doing the speed limit, or less, and still get cut to pieces by them. A solid barrier would be much better to hit, of you had a choice. I had a foot on my gas-powered leaf blower and let the pullcord rip. With the angle, the nylon cord rubbed the side of my knee and burned/sliced into the skin. One pull. One point of contact. Took 3 weeks for it to heal. I think of that personal experience - on a much, much, MUCH tamer device and speed - and realize the damage those highway cable barriers will do to flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I see that. Makes sense. I've never thought cables were a good barrier. I just thought that a biker slamming into a concrete wall at 100 MPH would produce different yet similar results (if that makes sense). Maybe after this they'll rethink the use of cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Shortly after they installed those cable barriers on 270 south of Tuttle, I saw a yellow Ford Focus go right through them and still ended up on the other side of 270. I figure if they can't stop a Focus, how are they going to stop anything bigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I see that. Makes sense. I've never thought cables were a good barrier. I just thought that a biker slamming into a concrete wall at 100 MPH would produce different yet similar results (if that makes sense). Maybe after this they'll rethink the use of cables. They wont. This isn't the first time it has happened and it won't be the last. They're cheap to install and replace, that's all they care about. The force of hitting a wall would be very different and the impact would be distributed across your body, but it also gives you the ability to slide along the barrier without having it slice through you. Michigan State Police posts pics on their Facebook every time one actually works as intended. They showed one that they claim stopped a semi truck, but it was debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Shortly after they installed those cable barriers on 270 south of Tuttle, I saw a yellow Ford Focus go right through them and still ended up on the other side of 270. I figure if they can't stop a Focus, how are they going to stop anything bigger? Stopped the Viper. Not lobbying for them. I def see the downsides. They wont. This isn't the first time it has happened and it won't be the last. They're cheap to install and replace, that's all they care about. The force of hitting a wall would be very different and the impact would be distributed across your body, but it also gives you the ability to slide along the barrier without having it slice through you. Michigan State Police posts pics on their Facebook every time one actually works as intended. They showed one that they claim stopped a semi truck, but it was debatable. Looks like they're trying to "prove" that they work. Usually means they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I wouldn't say it "stopped" the Viper. The Viper went under the cable that detached from the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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