copperhead Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Range toys: .22 Long Rifle Browning Buckmark Ruger SR22 Ruger MK III Ruger 22/45 Smith&Wesson M&P22 Walther P22 9mm Luger (aka 9mm Parabellum, 9x19) Glock 19 (compact) Glock 17 (fullsize) Smith&Wesson M&P 9mm Fullsize Smith&Wesson M&P 9c (compact) Springfield XD Service (compact) Springfield XDM 3.8 (compact) Springfield XDM 4.5 (fullsize) H&K P30 (compact) H&K USP (fullsize) H&K USP Compact Walther PPQ (fullsize) Walther PPX (fullsize) .40 S&W Glock 23 (compact) Glock 22 (fullsize) Smith&Wesson M&P .40 Fullsize Smith&Wesson M&P .40c (compact) Springfield XD Service (compact) Springfield XDM 3.8 (compact) Springfield XDM 4.5 (fullsize) H&K P30 (compact) H&K USP (fullsize) H&K USP Compact Walther PPQ (fullsize) Walther PPX (fullsize) .45 ACP (aka .45 Auto) 1911 Variant (see below) Glock 21 (fullsize) Smith&Wesson M&P .45 Fullsize Smith&Wesson M&P .45 Midsize Smith&Wesson M&P .45c (compact) Springfield XD Service (compact) Springfield XDM 4.5 (fullsize) H&K HK45c (compact) H&K HK45 (fullsize) H&K USP (fullsize) H&K USP Compact Edited August 6, 2013 by copperhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Recommended holsters N82 Tactical Raven Safariland Crossbreed CTAC/MTAC Desantis Alien Gear Holsters to avoid Uncle Mike's Lady friendly guns Glock 42 1911 Edited May 28, 2015 by copperhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) 1911 Variants This will be arranged by MSRP. I need recommendations along with the factory MSRP included. Unless noted otherwise, these are all fullsize 5" models chambered in .45 ACP. Smaller models are prone to issues. 1911 prices are all over the place. It is possible to get more features at a lower price from one company as opposed to another. Sometimes you are mainly buying a name (like the Remington), other times you are getting great value for your dollar (Like with Rock Island or STI). Buy: Under $500 Rock Island Armory Tactical - $450 (Not 100% sure on price, this is what I've found online) $500-$750 STI Spartan V - $725 Remington R1 - $729 $750-$1,000 Ruger SR1911 - $829 $1,000-$1,250 $1,250-$1,500 $1,500-$2,000 $2,000+ Don't buy: Edited August 6, 2013 by copperhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Buy with caution (not for new shooters) Kel-Tec (These don't excel at any one thing, but are pretty good over all. However, they are designed strictly for concealed carry, and as such they take some getting used to. It's also not unusual that they will need a trip back to the factory for some work.) Taurus (These have had finish problems and reliability problems. The factory is good at trying to fix them, but aren't always successful. Many people have had good luck though.) Do not buy: Lorcin (unreliable) Jennings (unreliable) Raven (unreliable) Hipoint (This is highly disputed. The truth is they are extremely cheap guns, reliability seems to be either perfect or awful depending on how lucky you are, but they do have a lifetime warranty, and they are very heavy and uncomfortable compared to other similar guns. Many new shooters go to them first due to price, but I can not recommend. You are better off spending the extra $100 to get a Kel-Tec.) Smith&Wesson Sigma (Similar to Hipoint - many have had good luck but just as many have outright hated them. But they are cheap. Buyer beware.) Edited August 7, 2013 by copperhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macpyro2 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 .22 Rugar 10/22 CCW .380 Sig P238 I would also add Kahr and CZ to this list in multiple places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFo Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 CCW 9mm - Sig P938 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackbar00 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Nightstand - Governor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Nightstand - Governor Borderline worthless. 4" of penetration is nowhere near enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 .38 Special/.357 Magnum (revolver) S&W J frame for CCW S&W K frame and L frame for fullsize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackbar00 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Borderline worthless. 4" of penetration is nowhere near enough. Good thing the heart is only 2 inches behind your chest..... I think 6 rounds of 000 buck from a .410 shotgun shell is plenty enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 CZ 75 P07 Duty : Good for CCW, nightstand/HD, and range toy CZ 75 P09 Duty: Good for Nightstand/HD and Range toy CZ 75 P01/P06 : Good for Nightstand/HD and Range toy, okay for CCW due to it's weight. Sig P226: Good for night stand/HD and Range toy Sig P229: Good for night stand/HD and Range toy, okay for CCW due to it's size and weight. Sig P239: Good for CCW, night stand/HD. H&K P30: Good for CCW, nightstand/HD, and range toy H&K P30L: Good for night stand/HD and range toy They all come in 9mm or 40s&w except for the sig P239. That only comes in 9mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Mike, I always enjoy reading your write ups. They take time, and I just don't get into doing these write ups. I didn't see Ruger SR9c. I have enjoyed mine quite a bit. Might be a good add in a couple areas of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 $750-$1,000 Sprinfield Amory 1911-A1 they are usually just under 1000 for most of their guns. The EMP, Champion, Loaded, etc. KIMBER PRO CARRY II Kimber Ultra Carry II $1,000-$1,250 $1,250-$1,500 $1,500+ Dan Wesson Les Baer Wilson Combat Can't go wrong with anyone of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Ruger LC9 for Concealed Carry. Best pocket gun in my opinion and I have pretty large hands. Much MUCH better than the Junk LCP. Taurus 1911 is also a fine entry level 1911 $500-$750 usually. The "fit" is somewhat questionable, but finish/appearance is good and it's a good shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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