zeitgeist57 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I've been kicking around the option of heating my attached, 2-car garage cheaply, knowing that it doesn't get too cold...but would make working/washing cars a lot easier. I'm not expecting 80+ degrees, but if it was warm enough to dry water after I washed a salty car in Optimum No-Rinse, that would be huge. Let alone not having achy joints from working on cold metal and lying on an icy concrete floor! For reference: Propane Tank-Top: cheap, but 30k BTUs and not much propane used. http://www.harborfreight.com/30000-btu-tank-top-propane-heater-67856.html Natural Gas heater (wall/ceiling mount): great heat, permanent solution. Pricy unit and running natural gas line out to garage will be EXPENSIVE. Electric ceiling mount: not cheap, but permanent and simple garage heating solution. http://www.homedepot.com/p/NewAir-17-060-BTU-5000-Watt-Electric-Garage-Heater-G73/205588544#customer_reviews Parabolic heater: very cheap, but only localized heating. Get a couple? http://www.harborfreight.com/400900-watt-oscillating-parabolic-heater-62313.html Please vote and add your comments. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Why no Torpedo Heater option? KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPL_Josh Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Propane wouldn't be a bad option. I have this heater and used it when I had a 3 car garage. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Dyna-Glo-23-000-BTU-Convection-Kerosene-Heater/3471481 My house was well insulated and garage was insulated, 30 minutes and air temps were 60+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Propane all the way.. My little propane torpedo will heat the garage in 10-15 min. Sometimes I can even work with the door open with it on (If truck wont fit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I also have a infrared heater and its only hot NEAR it.. So it wont heat the garage but if you are only working in one area its not bad.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianZ06 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 My garage is usually warmer then the inside of my house. Im on propane with this. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/1fstws6/20161204_202100_zpsiicf3ats.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Propane FTW. Scored one of these for cheap on Craigslist a few years back, @ Max setting (200,000btu) it will take a 20 Degree 1 car Garage to 75 in all of 5 minutes :dumb: Nothing like working in shorts and a T-shirt when it's like 19 degrees outside . https://www.amazon.com/Master-TC200V-Convection-Heater-Drywaller/dp/B0000224FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POS VETT Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I like that tank-top mounted heaters. They don't use more footprint than the tank itself. I have a propane space heater that takes up more space since the tank and the heater are separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Thanks a TON for the responses so far, gents! I agree...I like the idea of the Propane tank-top because it's an efficient source of BTU's, and I have no problem going through a tank or two of propane @ $40 a pop this winter. Any concerns in an attached garage about burning propane and essentially having gases not being vented outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I'll be running one of these in my 30x40 uninsulated pole barn this winter. Cheap and get amazing reviews. https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Glo-RMC-LPC200DG-Liquid-Propane-Convection/dp/B00K8H8840 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I have used a torpedo and propane heater. Keep the door open 6-8" and youre fine. Propane vapors are heavier than air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) I'll be running one of these in my 30x40 uninsulated pole barn this winter. Cheap and get amazing reviews. https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Glo-RMC-LPC200DG-Liquid-Propane-Convection/dp/B00K8H8840 With those high output propane you heaters really need to run a 100lb tank. I mean you can run a 20 pound tank, so long as you keep air blowing over it (THE TANK) to keep it from freezing. I usually run mine at 200,000 BTU for a few minutes at a time, then shut it off. After that i'll periodically run @ 100,000btu to keep the temps up. No clue how harmful the emissions can be ( almost everyone says it's safe but i've yet to hear an expert opinion). That said I constantly keep fresh air Cycled in by cracking the garage door a bit. Edited December 5, 2016 by acklac7 FIXED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 . Propane vapors are heavier than air. That I did not know, thanks :thumbup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I run a 1500 watt space heater in my parents garage Clay. Takes a while to get warm, but it's GOOD NUFF to wash/detail. Propane/kerosene is overkill for how often you'll be using it versus 1, maybe 2 cheap electric heaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 With those high output propane you heaters really need to run a 5lb tank. I mean you can run a 1 pound tank, so long as you keep air blowing over it to keep it from freezing. I usually just last mine at 200,000 BTU for a few minutes at a time, then shut it off. After that i'll periodically run ot @ 100,000btu to keep the temps up. No clue how harmful the emissions can be ( almost everyone says it's safe but i've yet to hear an expert opinion). That said I constantly keep fresh air Cycled in by cracking the garage door a bit. The fuck did you just say? :dumb: Either way, I'll be tying it into my home propane tank which is located just behind my barn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Space heaters, LOL. Every last person I've had in my garage absolutely Marvel's at how awesome it is to wrench in 70 degree temps during the Winter. It's Downright Blissful. If you plan on doing any significant work, get nothing short of 100,000 BTU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectragod Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 60k BTU Hot Dagg in my 2 car garage, natural gas, vented outside, has a automatic thermostat, -0- fuss. I also have a Mitsubishi mini split in the same garage, essentially it's a heat pump, it doesn't heat as well as the NG unit, but it does cool the garage quite well in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 60k BTU Hot Dagg in my 2 car garage, natural gas, vented outside, has a automatic thermostat, -0- fuss. I also have a Mitsubishi mini split in the same garage, essentially it's a heat pump, it doesn't heat as well as the NG unit, but it does cool the garage quite well in the summer. Do you vent the heat from the condensor coil outside? Definitely need to look into that setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 The fuck did you just say? :dumb: You aren't alone in feeling that way after reading his posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 You aren't alone in feeling that way after reading his posts. Why don't you explain the principles behind a Standard heat pump system oh Grantrums? Like Evaporation, condensation and all that good shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectragod Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Do you vent the heat from the Evap coil outside? Definitely need to look into that setup. It's a super heat pump, there is a compressor that mounts outside, it uses the freon to produce the heat, no venting needed. The only lines going to the inside unit are from the compressor, if you have the funds, this may be an option, and, you can buy these online, the larger units run off 220V. I have a 16k btu unit, if I were relying on it for heat by itself, I would have gotten a larger unit. There are charts online to get you in the ball park to what size to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Here's the one I'm having installed in the coming weeks to replace a 25+ year old one. 220V and heats a cold garage with ease. Neighbor has one. My garage rarely gets below 50 unless temps plummet to below zero. I always just set it to 45. During morning coffee I would turn it up to 70 so the cars and garage were toasty when getting loaded up. Even the old one kicks ass and heats the place to 70 within a few minutes. Today It was 65 and I was sweating working on two cars. Had to open the garage twice to cool it off. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000PSFRTG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=252YBUCMFWRFS&coliid=I1WURXW70D4TIS&psc=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POS VETT Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Thanks a TON for the responses so far, gents! I agree...I like the idea of the Propane tank-top because it's an efficient source of BTU's, and I have no problem going through a tank or two of propane @ $40 a pop this winter. Any concerns in an attached garage about burning propane and essentially having gases not being vented outside? $40 to fill or to exchange a 20-lb tank is pretty steep. The last time I filled my tank, it was around $15. Barring a propane leak, propane combustion product that might cause a concern is carbon monoxide due to inefficient reaction. Since your usage is intermittent and the burners are efficient enough (less likely to produce CO), I suppose it is safe to run it in an enclosed garage which is not exactly air tight. If you felt it was necessary, simply plug in a CO detector in the garage as close to the burners as possible. In comparison, I have run my propane-fueled space heater for hours on end and there has been zero event when I suspected CO concentration to reach a dangerous level. I don't have a CO detector in the garage but there is one in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil8 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I run a 375000 btu propane torpedo heater by Master....it will take the 30 x 50 to around 200 degrees in 2 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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