o0n8 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 2017 is the last year for the SS But if you want a RWD (or AWD) Sedan, say hello to the Kia Stinger....but only with an automatic. http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2018-Kia-Stinger-GT-103-1-876x535.jpg http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2018-Kia-Stinger-GT-104-1-876x535.jpg http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2018-Kia-Stinger-102-1-876x535.jpg GT V6 rated at 365hp & 370tq Base 2.0L (I think it's used in the Optima) 255hp & 260tq I kinda like the styling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8tn Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I actually like the looks of that. I'd like it even more with about 100 more HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 .but only with an automatic. ALMOST thought KIA ungheyed for a second, just a little bit. NOPE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'm curious as to how easy/cheap it'd be to create an additional 100-150hp outside of nitrous lol. Would be a fun family car/daily Reminds me a little of an M5/Jaguar mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 thats a great looking car. They just gained some respect from me for going out on a limb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zx2guy19 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I really like the look of that thing- looks WAYYY higher end than a damn Kia. Edit: article says pricing not yet available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbospec29 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I really like the look of that thing- looks WAYYY higher end than a damn Kia. Edit: article says pricing not yet available. In before $40k Kia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Kia and Quattroporte styling combined, looks decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 ALMOST thought KIA ungheyed for a second, just a little bit. NOPE The thing has the headlights of a BMW 5-series, the roofline and swooping a$$ of an Audi A7. Both of those are automatic-only. I'm a stick-shift nut, and I have to admit I'm very impressed with this from Kia. I'd definitely pick it over a Hyundai Genesis or Equus or whatever. In for grabbing a Stinger GT when they're sub-$12k in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewtoys Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 The front looks like a G8, and the taillights look like a Charger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I imagine it will be a heavy pig, and I really just don't care for Kia corporate parrotfish fascia / grille. Neat to see regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 In before $40k Kia. A loaded Optima SX-L is almost $40k, loaded Cadenza almost $50k, and loaded K900 is almost $70k lol. I'd say the Stinger GT will sit mid 40s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grudes Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Hmm Optima Facia with a Charger rear styling. The Design doesnt really flow. I would still consider one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Love everything about this car and what it represents, except for "but only with an automatic." Goddamn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Those side markers streaming off the tails look retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I like Kia....Well, I don't like most of their their dealers who are so used to dealing with bad credit risk customers that they almost operate like a buy here pay here used car lot but for new cars. And I don't really like that the manual transmission option is only available on the the super cheap base models of the Soul and Rio. And honestly most of their lineup looks like I would fall asleep halfway through saying their name out loud. Kia opti....snore....see it happens. I guess I just like the idea of kia as the plucky underdog in a market filled with bloated car companies not taking a lot of risks. But I do like the Forte Koup which i think is the spiritual successor to the 1990's Civic Si, and I like how funky the Soul is in the styling, and I am genuinely impressed that they sell a 420hp rwd luxury sedan (K900) that rivals nicer cars for $61,000. But I don't really like this. Maybe it is the decline in the sedan market, maybe because we are spoiled for choice with so many better cars in that segment, maybe it is because I think the nose and grill looks like a catfish. I don't know, it just seems kinda....meh...to me. I do like the weirdo taillights though. Also, automatic only? lame. Kia has a DCT transmission they use, why saddle this with a slushbox converter auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Maybe it is the decline in the sedan market. Kia has a DCT transmission they use, why saddle this with a slushbox converter auto. I agree, sedans are retarded. They make no sense, a wagon or SUV is infinitely more practical. Probably due to cost and potential buyers. Audi is moving away from DCT and towards the ZF8. Dual clutch transmissions still have some behaviors that buyers don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I agree, sedans are retarded. They make no sense, a wagon or SUV is infinitely more practical. Probably due to cost and potential buyers. Audi is moving away from DCT and towards the ZF8. Dual clutch transmissions still have some behaviors that buyers don't like. Like being more awesome than a torque converter auto? apparently that's a behavior buyers don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 VENTS VENTS ERREYWHERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0n8 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 But nobody really wants to make wagons anymore...at least not for our market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l36tols1 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Wonder if they are going to make a Hyundai equivalent and put it with the Genesis brand. I like the Audi like Genesis grilles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Like being more awesome than a torque converter auto? apparently that's a behavior buyers don't like. My parents had a 2010 VW CC and complained about the DSG Auto literally every time I spoke to them. The dealer reflashed the trans computer a couple of times but they still hated the feel coming to a stop and accelerating from a stop slowly. Most non-car people will prefer a slish box to the DSG or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 But nobody really wants to make wagons anymore...at least not for our market. VW just came out with a new wagon for our market, the Golf Alltrack. AWD and a DSG - it's like a bargain basement version of an Audi Allroad without the power and problem prone air suspension. Supposedly Buick is going to bring an Opel Wagon here as the regal wagon. Might even have a manual option. I wish dodge would bring the magnum back. The only thing I don't like about that car is the dated look of the 4 bar grille, otherwise it's awesome. My parents had a 2010 VW CC and complained about the DSG Auto literally every time I spoke to them. The dealer reflashed the trans computer a couple of times but they still hated the feel coming to a stop and accelerating from a stop slowly. Most non-car people will prefer a slish box to the DSG or similar. most non-car people buy Camrys. in metallic beige. Don't be non-car people. I hear that complaint about DSGs a lot, and I get it. If they are really going to be the stand in for real manuals in the performance though we need the companies to put more of them in cars not less so they will invest in evolving it into something really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I hear that complaint about DSGs a lot, and I get it. If they are really going to be the stand in for real manuals in the performance though we need the companies to put more of them in cars not less so they will invest in evolving it into something really good. Dual clutch gear boxes have lost their appeal imo, torque converted automatics are back on top of the "how fast can you shift" pile. The new 8 speed behind the C7 Z06 out shifts Porches PDK trans in the 911. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 But nobody really wants to make wagons anymore...at least not for our market. There are lots of wagons and hatches now. They're becoming more popular for pleb cars, specifically for smaller cars. Focus, civic, cruze, forte, elantra, etc are all offering hatchbacks and they're getting popular. Not to mention the fiesta, mazda 2, mazda 3, golf, sportwagen, alltrack, a4 avant, allroad, 3 series, not sure if the c and e class still has one or not, s60, new s90 large sedan is coming in wagon, etc, etc... My parents had a 2010 VW CC and complained about the DSG Auto literally every time I spoke to them. The dealer reflashed the trans computer a couple of times but they still hated the feel coming to a stop and accelerating from a stop slowly. Most non-car people will prefer a slish box to the DSG or similar. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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