Aaron Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Dual clutch gear boxes have lost their appeal imo, torque converted automatics are back on top of the "how fast can you shift" pile. The new 8 speed behind the C7 Z06 out shifts Porches PDK trans in the 911. This is very short sighted... It might be able to shift faster while Upshifting, but it 100% will not shift as fast Downshifting. PS, automatics LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 This is very short sighted... It might be able to shift faster while Upshifting, but it 100% will not shift as fast Downshifting. PS, automatics LOL I am looking at Vettes and CTVs (as usual) and trying to convince my self an auto is OK as it greatly increases the selection. I just cannot do it. While there is no question I would be faster with an auto (the new 10 speed auto in the ZL1 is awesome) I just like changing gears myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I am looking at Vettes and CTVs (as usual) and trying to convince my self an auto is OK as it greatly increases the selection. I just cannot do it. While there is no question I would be faster with an auto (the new 10 speed auto in the ZL1 is awesome) I just like changing gears myself. :fuckyeah: BE STRONG, DON'T GIVE IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Autos are for suvs and trucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleyounger3 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Autos are for suvs and trucks And underbody lights are for ricers & batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versluis Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Would rather have the SS and I love my DSG in the GLI. Aftering getting the APR TCU software it is even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleyounger3 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) I would like the gt4 stinger from the 14 auto show. 6 speed 315 hp. Under 30k they say Edited January 11, 2017 by coleyounger3 Can't spell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I like it a lot. Would be a possible buy later in life with a manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 If I can pick up a used year old one for 30k 2 years from now...yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0n8 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 There are lots of wagons and hatches now. They're becoming more popular for pleb cars, specifically for smaller cars. Focus, civic, cruze, forte, elantra, etc are all offering hatchbacks and they're getting popular. Not to mention the fiesta, mazda 2, mazda 3, golf, sportwagen, alltrack, a4 avant, allroad, 3 series, not sure if the c and e class still has one or not, s60, new s90 large sedan is coming in wagon, etc, etc... hatches aren't wagons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 hatches aren't wagons. :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 And underbody lights are for ricers & batman. And Challengers are for 14-second quarter miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coleyounger3 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 And Challengers are for 14-second quarter miles That's why I got rid of mine:) don't get hard Peter I'm just playing with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I am looking at Vettes and CTVs (as usual) and trying to convince my self an auto is OK as it greatly increases the selection. I just cannot do it. While there is no question I would be faster with an auto (the new 10 speed auto in the ZL1 is awesome) I just like changing gears myself. Autos are for suvs and trucks Preach it! Only reason I didn't get a charger, no manual option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Sweet Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Eh, I think it's ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I really want to like it, but I can't get past the Kia badge. It'll be a steal on the used market, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Looks like the Audi Designer that joined them a while back is going after the S5 sportback look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I like the exterior and the specs. Will be interesting to see how it does. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 There are lots of wagons and hatches now. They're becoming more popular for pleb cars, specifically for smaller cars. Focus, civic, cruze, forte, elantra, etc are all offering hatchbacks and they're getting popular. Not to mention the fiesta, mazda 2, mazda 3, golf, sportwagen, alltrack, a4 avant, allroad, 3 series, not sure if the c and e class still has one or not, s60, new s90 large sedan is coming in wagon, etc, etc... ^^ Audi S5 Sportback in the hatchback category too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli1647545497 Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I gave in to the automagica with the Vette after 30+ years of nothing but manuals. Its not bad, but sometimes I miss the manual. ...until I sit in Columbus commuter traffic. Going to see if I can talk my wife into a gently used 1-2yr old model in 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Those side markers streaming off the tails look retarded. Agreed. I really want to like it, but I can't get past the Kia badge. It'll be a steal on the used market, though. Especially for the price. If it was priced like a Kia it'd have a little more appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think I'm going to get the Alfa Romeo. That thing is bad ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I actually kinda like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I think I'm going to get the Alfa Romeo. That thing is bad ass. My opinion may be a bit biased, but the Guilia is an awesome car. After going to NAIAS today and seeing the Giulia listed for $72k (starting), I'd like to know what that includes. There was an ATS-V for $89k, which seems a bit outrageous to me. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 My opinion may be a bit biased, but the Guilia is an awesome car. After going to NAIAS today and seeing the Giulia listed for $72k (starting), I'd like to know what that includes. There was an ATS-V for $89k, which seems a bit outrageous to me. Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk The $72k giulia is the quatrafolio model, or in other words the direct competitor to the M3. It's a 505hp twin turbo v6 that will supposedly do 200mph and 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. It's also $40k more than the base Giulia, which is supposed to be a direct 3 series competitor. I hear the are fun cars but the two things I have learned from Italian vehicles are: 1) always buy them used because the 1st owner spends the money sorting out the bugs, 2) the only thing with worse depreciation is a British car, and the difference is literally pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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