TTQ B4U Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 . Assuming a 200# driver, that is 3572 race weight. With 335 Flywheel HP, no way it runs 12's. The best calculator is 13.43@106. Far cry from 12.3..... Keep in mind even stock S4's and even my car when stock run 13 or better and weigh in at 4000lbs. Don't put much in calculators like that. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 M2 / M2 competition didn't already fill that void? So I thought long and hard about that actually. the M2 Competition is still a 2+2 car weighing 3600lbs where as the cayman is a 2800-2900lb 2 seat sports car. I think the M2 kinda ends up doing the same work by accident but in a very different way. While I do think there are some people who would cross shop the two cars, I feel like that back seat would disqualify the cayman for a lot more people as a DD and the M2 for a lot of others looking for a real sports car. I know you were looking at cars earlier this year and probably cross shopped both and bought an M2, but I feel like you are the exception rather than the rule. I know that if I were in the market for a $50K car with a stick I would be cross shopping new M2s with used 911s because I have a kid and a need for a back seat (and I probably would also be looking at camaros and mustangs). The F-type and Supra are a little porky when compared to the cayman too at 3300lbs, but at the very least they are true 2 seaters which gets them closer to being competitors. they are all in the same price bracket, but the price bracket isn't the deciding factor alone, otherwise we would be talking about corvettes and lexus cars and other big heavy GT cars. Which bring up the question: Are the new GR Supra and the Corvette competitors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Why's that? Because of this: Dumbest post of the month. :gabe: Edited May 16, 2019 by Otis Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiOn19s Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 So I thought long and hard about that actually. the M2 Competition is still a 2+2 car weighing 3600lbs where as the cayman is a 2800-2900lb 2 seat sports car. I think the M2 kinda ends up doing the same work by accident but in a very different way. While I do think there are some people who would cross shop the two cars, I feel like that back seat would disqualify the cayman for a lot more people as a DD and the M2 for a lot of others looking for a real sports car. I know you were looking at cars earlier this year and probably cross shopped both and bought an M2, but I feel like you are the exception rather than the rule. I know that if I were in the market for a $50K car with a stick I would be cross shopping new M2s with used 911s because I have a kid and a need for a back seat (and I probably would also be looking at camaros and mustangs). The F-type and Supra are a little porky when compared to the cayman too at 3300lbs, but at the very least they are true 2 seaters which gets them closer to being competitors. they are all in the same price bracket, but the price bracket isn't the deciding factor alone, otherwise we would be talking about corvettes and lexus cars and other big heavy GT cars. Which bring up the question: Are the new GR Supra and the Corvette competitors? Fair analysis. I can't stand convertible cars so when i looked for small, 2 door sports coupes the M2 was the only consideration for us in the BMW range. We did cross shop Caymans and i would have much preferred a Cayman GTS or GT4 but she really liked the BMW and I really liked the tuning potential of them putting the S55 engine into the M2 now so that solidified the choice. Real world M2 competitions are coming in closer to 3500lbs but it's still pretty portly compared to what it should be in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackbar00 Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 Keep in mind even stock S4's and even my car when stock run 13 or better and weigh in at 4000lbs. Don't put much in calculators like that. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Im just saying. a 12.3 with those stats? Not buying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeROC Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 Im just saying. a 12.3 with those stats? Not buying it. I want to see the tq curve. Peak tq at 1600 and HP at 6500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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