V4junkie Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Average speed of drivers has increased while accidents and fatalities have gone down (percentage wise). All statistics show speed is not the cause of the overwhelming majority of accidents. If speeding was so dangerous the fine would be enough to make you REALLY think about it, not just inconvenienced. We are being fleeced.Uh oh, forgot how sheep references are taken around here . . .Edit . . . Nick chopped his post . . . guess I'll wait for a PM if mine needs it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Damn you Ninja(edit)Nick.I was going to say: "Tell us how you really feel"... but it's gone now. Quite the rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 V4junkie said: Average speed of drivers has increased while accidents and fatalities have gone down (percentage wise). All statistics show speed is not the cause of the overwhelming majority of accidents. If speeding was so dangerous the fine would be enough to make you REALLY think about it, not just inconvenienced. We are being fleeced.You think people would still be putting on makeup and reading the paper in their vehicles if the speed limit was increased?I think raising the limit would force people to get a little more scared and a lot more attentive when they're behind the wheel (instead of complacent enough to shave, read, eat,etc), and keep the people who couldn't hang with the rest OFF the roads, they're the most dangerous anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvismb Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Nick, don't make me come downstairs and climb your big ass to smack some sense into you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrillo Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 V4junkie said: Edit . . . Nick chopped his post . . . guess I'll wait for a PM if mine needs it too.nah.. you're not like "FTP!!!" etc. You're just saying that the system is flawed. I agree, it doesn't seem like speeding tickets are given for safety reasons so much as it is for money reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 JRMMiii said: You think people would still be putting on makeup and reading the paper in their vehicles if the speed limit was increased?Raise the limit? Where did I say that?Don't change the law, it's perfect. Prima Facie is a reasonable way of writing the law, but the interpretation varies wildly between LEO's (and unfortunately judges I've talked to). By legal definition going above the posted speed is prima facie (assumed or at first glance) to be illegal based on that roads condition. Higher speeds are allowed for if they are "reasonable" and allow you safe distance to stop or maneuver if needed.It's a tax with lipstick on it.Now whaddya got JRMii(i)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I proposed the increase. You never said it. I just hypothesize that if you raised the speed limits and people were allowed to drive 100mph everywhere, that you'd have a lot more people paying attention.Lead, follow, TITS or GTFO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I don't know that most people are going to pay any more attention, multitasking on the road is part of our culture now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 V4junkie said: I don't know that most people are going to pay any more attention, multitasking on the road is part of our culture now.And that's why it's a hypothesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Hmm, we need an objective third party but I'd settle for a biased one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Why don't we go a step further and let people drive on whatever side of the road they feel like? I know I'd be highly attentive if I wasn't sure a random person would come flying at me.What about random, intentional potholes? Serpentine roads (at least that'd be awesome for motorcyclists)?What do you think the chances would be that you'd see another person doing anything other than focusing on the road?Ok, really silly examples, but in order to get people to tay appention you gotta think outside the box sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Vehicles should auto-pilot on the highway, easy.Ok fine, I guess an Autobahn interstate is the cheapest solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4isvt Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 ill be on lake erie drinking my ass of so I wont be driving with all our shitty drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrillo Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 not shitty drivers.. we're okay there. Shitty driving laws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Exactly, I hate to have low standards but let's try to get at least middle of the road on that post #1 list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilTwin Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I would pay $100 a year for a license that allowed me to go faster than normal licensed drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I tell you what. Cops cluster up highways more than anyone. Traffic will be flowing nicely with many people doing different speeds which keeps traffic moving much better than everyone bunching up going 65mph. A cop will be traveling in the passing lane at 65mph with a WALL of vehicles stuck behind him because nobody can pass his ass, so he clusters the whole fucking road making it more dangerous. Half the time I feel like yelling, "GTFO of the way!". Also, I noticed yesterday because of the police enforcement being pushed that when everyone is doing the speed limit, everyone gets crammed. Road travel is more efficient and less harmful when people aren't bunched up. And what prevents that??....Everyone doing different speeds!They're too dumb to realize all this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocrash Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 NinjaNick said: I tell you what. Cops cluster up highways more than anyone. Traffic will be flowing nicely with many people doing different speeds which keeps traffic moving much better than everyone bunching up going 65mph. A cop will be traveling in the passing lane at 65mph with a WALL of vehicles stuck behind him because nobody can pass his ass, so he clusters the whole fucking road making it more dangerous. Half the time I feel like yelling, "GTFO of the way!". And I love how people will be moving right along at 70mph or so, see a cop, then slow down to 55 or 60! WTF?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 ^^Oh yeah, the ones that go way under the speed limit because they're afraid to pass a cop when he is going under the limit.Or when the person is doing the speed limit and they automatically hit the brakes when they see a cop, but they weren't even speeding in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegame Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 zerocrash said: And I love how people will be moving right along at 70mph or so, see a cop, then slow down to 55 or 60! WTF?? x2 i fucking luv that. then 5 seconds later they speed back up. so annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilTwin Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 NinjaNick said: ^^Oh yeah, the ones that go way under the speed limit because they're afraid to pass a cop when he is going under the limit.Or when the person is doing the speed limit and they automatically hit the brakes when they see a cop, but they weren't even speeding in the first place. yea but it's those guys that alert me to the presence of a cop. I'm always on the lookout for brake lights in the traffic ahead of me, not only for people who are slowing down, but if every one is hitting them then there is probably a cop; this helps when your going around long bends as well, and has saved my ass more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrillo Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 EvilTwin said: yea but it's those guys that alert me to the presence of a cop. I'm always on the lookout for brake lights in the traffic ahead of me, not only for people who are slowing down, but if every one is hitting them then there is probably a cop; this helps when your going around long bends as well, and has saved my ass more than once.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara_Rides Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Good point, I'm guilty of the same thing....it's only annoying when you're in a hurry and in all reality I'm always grateful that someone else has prevented me from getting a ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbret Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 I think most of them drive on Polaris Parkway around 4pm everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara_Rides Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Funny, because I thought they were all on W. Broad at 4:30 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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