DangBruhY Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Wish I would have seen this. I would have gone shooting with you.What guns do you have? I have videos on my facebook account, but don't know how to post them in here.I shot my AR, GLOCK and my buddy's pistols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 What guns do you have? I have videos on my facebook account, but don't know how to post them in here.I shot my AR, GLOCK and my buddy's pistols.I shoot mostly with my Glock 23 and my wife's Springfield XD sub 9mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I have thought about it more I dont like the AR platform as much as the mini. It is to frigin complex. I like the simple design of the mini. I am leaning towards getting another mini 14 in the ati stock. I think I would be happier with it over the AR. This is the one I want to get.So you want to turn your Mini into an AR, but less accurate?Dude..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Here ya go it is a ati strikeforce stock. they say it will fit the mini30 with a little tweak? here is the link to there site. http://atigunstocks.com/products.aspx?category=18&page=1&id=51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Besides why buy an ar when I dont have anywhere to shoot it? It was fun to shoot the mini again but 22.5 yards aint real far at progun?Go to an outdoor range, problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 That is a stock ruger model I posted. And if I threw the money into it to make it as accurate as a AR I still would spend less money. I dont need a bench gun, I am looking for 100meter and under so this would be fine out of the box. If you still think mini 14 is not accurate I will let you shoot my target model, it aint bad for a semi auto. If I want sub moa I would buy a bolt gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 edit double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Go to an outdoor range, problem solved.Yeah cause there are so many near me in cleveland, maybe one within a hour and a half drive! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I've seen exactly 2 mini's that would shoot close to MOA. One actually shot sub moa, but it took $1400 to get it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Gun doc trigger job, smaller gas bushings, good scope, barrel strut would get you there or damn close for under $400 plus the gun still cheaper them most people have into there AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 You used the words good scope and under $400 in the same sentence. tsk tsk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Here ya go it is a ati strikeforce stock. they say it will fit the mini30 with a little tweak? here is the link to there site. http://atigunstocks.com/products.aspx?category=18&page=1&id=51Thanks mang. my 30 is surprisingly accurate. i was consistently hitting 2-3 inch targets at 25 meters with the stock flip up sight that has never been zeroed. This was in the STANDING position too. and the 7.62 FMJs i was using was murdering the 3/4 steel plate we were shooting. i really dont get this AR craze. Get whatever makes you happy. ive had my Ruger for awhile and thinl ill make some ergo upgrades and maybe some sort of optics. just remeber this. the Rifle doesnt make you a shooter. You make You a shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 speedy had the mini on bench rest and we were putting them at x all day... I shot a few standing... guns weighted wrong for a marksmanship rifle... but accurate as all hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 If you need info on the mini check here if have not been there yet. www.perfectunion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 The mini I have now is a bench gun more then a off hand gun. Thats why I am looking to get the tactical one. Will keep the target model also if I cant get what I want for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 You used the words good scope and under $400 in the same sentence. tsk tskyeah cause a $1000 scope is needed for a 100 meter shot?! maybe if you cant shoot LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Thanks mang. my 30 is surprisingly accurate. i was consistently hitting 2-3 inch targets at 25 meters with the stock flip up sight that has never been zeroed. This was in the STANDING position too. just remeber this. the Rifle doesnt make you a shooter. You make You a shooter.No offense man, but at 25m, thats pistol level accuracy (one handed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 yeah cause a $1000 scope is needed for a 100 meter shot?! maybe if you cant shoot LOL!Didn't say it was. You said good scope, not a scope adequate for 100m shooting. Hell, my $225 .17hmr + scope combo shoots under MOA at 100yds all day long. .5MOA with a particular ammo if I do my part. However, you'll never catch me calling that scope "good". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 No offense man, but at 25m, thats pistol level accuracy (one handed).Im sure you got mad skillz. Yo.When you shoot one handed I bet the gun is sideways huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Im sure you got mad skillz. Yo.When you shoot one handed I bet the gun is sideways huh? For reference, the 9 ring on an 25m pistol target is 100mm across or roughly 4 inches. A good bullseye shooter will have at least a 9-ring hold if not better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 By the way I was just kidding. Don't wanna get your drawles balled up or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Yeah that is about right I just shot that at riverside this weekend with my subcompact. Went through a 16 round mag rapid fire at 22.5 yards and kept it in a 4 inch group with 16 shots. If I put a $150 scope on a mini 14 tactical With a bench I could shoot close to moa. It is the shooter not the weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) Yeah that is about right I just shot that at riverside this weekend with my subcompact. Went through a 16 round mag rapid fire at 22.5 yards and kept it in a 4 inch group with 16 shots. If I put a $150 scope on a mini 14 tactical With a bench I could shoot close to moa. It is the shooter not the weapon.Uhmm.. Does everyone even know what MOA is? Just for example, MOA Range Group Size.25 100 .25" .5 100 .5"1 100 1"2 100 2"3 100 3"That also means that MOA at 25 yards = .25 inches. And actually what youre really talking about it IPHY which is "inch per hundred yards" although most people have just gotten used to using MOA although there is a difference. Edited November 30, 2009 by flounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Yeah that is about right I just shot that at riverside this weekend with my subcompact. Went through a 16 round mag rapid fire at 22.5 yards and kept it in a 4 inch group with 16 shots. If I put a $150 scope on a mini 14 tactical With a bench I could shoot close to moa. It is the shooter not the weapon.Not exactly. No matter how good the shooter is, if the weapon isn't capable it doesn't matter. Typically, the average weapon is better than the average shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Uhmm.. Does everyone even know what MOA is? Just for example, MOA Range Group Size.25 100 .25" .5 100 .5"1 100 1"2 100 2"3 100 3"That also means that MOA at 25 yards = .25 inches. And actually what youre really talking about it IPHY which is "inch per hundred yards" although most people have just gotten used to using MOA although there is a difference.I doubt most here do. For your average shooter/hunter type, knowing IPHY is close enough (1 inch vs 1.047 inches). Same for using meters vs yards. However, you get into service rifle, or benchrest/target type stuff, that difference becomes much more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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