dmagicglock Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449genjoy! discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 imaginary rep for you, sir!In theory, i support the idea of mandatory military service. I generally detest the idea of the government requiring such things, but I know at least 2 people (on is my cousin) who are complete morons. Their only redeeming qualities are a direct result of their military training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 no...guns cause crime...they grow legs and faces and go kill people, rob stores etc etc...people are the victims.or is that video just swiss propaganda so no one fucks with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Whoever narrated that video needs to find another job that doesn't involve using her voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Whoever narrated that video needs to find another job that doesn't involve using her voice.dude, they're going to shoot you in the face for saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Whoever narrated that video needs to find another job that doesn't involve using her voice.So you're volunteering to learn to translate then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 subtitles > her voiceThe guy speak pretty decent english. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 "Government mandates all citizens to take military training.""Government mandates all citizens have firearms in their homes." "Government supplies ammunition and weapons."I don't see the parallels between these statements and the man's claim of liberty and freedom. Maybe I should watch it again' date=' but I'll prolly come to the same conclusion.[/quote']kinda thought the same thing...... government in every aspect of life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezle Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I say fuck yeah! Then again I'm a stupid fuckin redneck with no education! So what do I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jermattak Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 their government is requiring them to have guns, ours is trying to take ours away. in my book, neither is free. i dont think thats what the video is about though, i do agree, more guns, less crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 not just more guns, but actual military training. i've long thought that the Israeli IDF and its mandatory service was a great idea. Just think how much better this country would be if everyone had to go through basic training and learn a trade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 when will i get my free sig and case of 5.56 ammo? compare and contrast that mentality to our unarmed military personnel on military bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I disagree with mandatory military service... I don't want someone that doesn't wanna be there watching my back...or the backs of those serving now... it didn't work in Vietnam, it won't work now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Every idiot should own a gun. Hell, give crack heads two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmagicglock Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 i'm okay with shipping all crack heads off to an island... and giving them guns and dropping a giant rock off in the middle...may the best crack head win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 i'm okay with shipping all crack heads off to an island... and giving them guns and dropping a giant rock off in the middle...may the best crack head win! the sad proplem is this is prob the premise for a reality tv show in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I disagree with mandatory military service... I don't want someone that doesn't wanna be there watching my back...or the backs of those serving now... it didn't work in Vietnam, it won't work now...Apparently the Israeli's love the idea. I don't think it's truly been tested. I wouldn't want someone who really didn't want to be there watching my back either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmagicglock Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I think the difference with smaller european countries and places like Israel is... they don't have a large enough of a population to provide an effective military (to ensure their sovereignty) without requiring a mandatory service. I also think as a result of the mandatory service you get people that have a greater appreciation for their country. I knew a Norwegian and an Israeli that both liked the idea of a mandatory service and enjoyed serving their country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 not just more guns, but actual military training. i've long thought that the Israeli IDF and its mandatory service was a great idea. Just think how much better this country would be if everyone had to go through basic training and learn a trade...Shall I implant your career chip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 That' date=' and the fact that the Swiss don't have someone hellbent on exterminating them from the planet like the Israeli's do. I'm sure there are a lot of Israeli's that wish they didn't have to fight, but I don't know if you'll find one that simply refuses to fight. Maybe so.. [/quote']The Orthodox refuse, and are granted exception to military service in Israel (it's been discussed they will have to do some sort of government service in it's place)...That being said, I'd be happy to serve in the IDF, and I didn't meet one military soldier or officer that said they wish they didn't have to... in fact, most re-up or go into reserves. Around Tel-Aviv, far from the war in Gaza you could hear the gun shots from the training areas, I met 2 soldiers in fatigues. Neither spoke english, but he asked me if we had a "madricha" nearby (leader), I saw our tour guide and called him over, he explained (in hebrew) we were on the Birthright trip and we had just been around Jerusalem and were on our way to the desert. The soldier looked at me and started talking in hebrew, I could only understand a few words here and there but I did make out "gaza" and some other words. I thanked him profusely for his service and taking the time to talk to me. He looked at me strange for thanking him, not because of the language, because I said it in hebrew.The 2 soldiers left and our leader explained what he had said. Apparantly the soldiers had just finished their training and were just finishing up their lunch before deployment. The 2 soldiers (no older than 19) were being deployed for the war.... the 2 kids spent their last lunch break before going to war talking to me, (and offering to take me on an armed tour of Gaza.... I would have accepted that in a SECOND but obviously our security wouldn't allow it)That was the first time I cried in Israel (this was before the wall, the holocaust memorial, the immigration camps, the temples, the ruins... everything)... It was the first time I had thanked an Israeli for everything they'd done and was looked at so strange... noone thanks them for their service because they do it for themselves and their country... it's thankless and they're 100% ok with that....anyway, I've never felt safer than I did in Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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