jporter12 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Leaning? You're supposed to lean?No need for the busa riders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Here ya go. http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_0806_riding_styles_body_position/index.htmlthank ya sir!! Rep to you... awww damn cant LOL:rulez: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earache Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) ... He's more than blown the apex, and has yet to orient the bike for the exit. That was poser if I have ever seen it.I don't think you can really say that unless you were there top see what else is going on outside the frame of the pic. Shit in the road? Car coming?Just passed a car? Showing off for the photog?I'd stay off of that "apex" at the Gap - good way to get killed.Any form where you don't crash and are fluid through the turn is "good form". Might not be the absolute fastest though. Or it might be. Edited January 8, 2010 by Earache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yeah everyone is different and will have different form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Any form where you don't crash and are fluid through the turn is "good form". Might not be the absolute fastest though. Or it might be.werd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Any form where you don't crash and are fluid through the turn is "good form". Might not be the absolute fastest though. Or it might be.That makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 thank ya sir!!Rep to you... awww damn cant LOL:rulez:Your welcome! Well I thought it would be an interesting read, and by the powers invested in google, tada!! Thought some others would like to read it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 i think he's just too far off the side of the bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Ya know, I don't think it looks that bad myself...The picture angle is a bit odd. If the picture were from directly behind the rider you may be able to better judge his form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 it almost looks like he needs to invest in rearsets or needs to hang his upper body out more cause his toes are dragging pretty hard through the turn...or he just needs to tuck his feet in. I dunno, i'm a bitch rider, so i make guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhaag Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 the best advice i've been given is to stay low and rotate around the tank, and i try to lead with my shoulder. this helps me get my upper body involved more since that seems to be more difficult for me. getting a knee down is a lot of fun and a sort of milestone for most riders, but the more you ride it becomes an indicator more than anything. dude looks like he's reaching a bit, but that may be what works for him. he's on the edge of his tires, but if he had, what i would consider, better form he would be much more compact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Some of these guys kill me.... They lean off their bikes to the point of falling off, just so they can say "they got a knee down" Big whooopty $hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Are those A-Stars new Khaki "track casual" leathers?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Jesus Matt, if you're going to post a picture of me at the strip, the least you could do is put me on the fast bike. Ya know, the one that doesn't turn. @ RVT. She wanted to ride the SV because shouldn't couldn't stomach the RC. It's uglier than the busa. And thanks for reminding me I fail @ gear Fonz. Edited January 8, 2010 by JRMMiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Jealousy is a stinky cologne' date=' Fonz. [/quote']What's to be jealous of? I freely admit I'm not the best rider & still have chicken strips... But even I can hang my fat a$$ off my seat to the point of falling off my bike That's completely different than proper technique & actually having the bike leaned over that far, which I have yet to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 There's no "perfect" or totally "right" body position. You cannot teach someone that one way is better than another. Hell, it took me years to drag a knee. Even now, I do it minimally. The way I lean off a bike is considered traditional and almost textbook if there was such a thing, but there are others like Reuben who used to look like his head was sideways hanging off the bike...Here's three examples of some pretty fast dudes and note the differences...Point is this:1) You need to ride to a degree that is comfortable for YOU. Trying to drag your knee for a pic is resulting in only going slower. You having to think about dragging your knee or where your arm is, your butt, your knee, etc is taking away from what matters - getting through the corner...2) The key elements are that you need to hang off. That split up your butt has two uses. One to act as a guideline for where the edge of your seat needs to be. Two, well... I can't say here...3) Elbows need to be relaxed. We are ALWAYS finding guys WAY too intense and holding on too tight. Loose is good. Relaxed is what you want. If it feels unnatural, it looks even worse... Being relaxed and comfortable will result in you learning what works best for you.Some guys ride the front. Some guys are point and shoot. Some guys are slide in, square off and hammer out. Some guys are traditional in and out and smooth. Some guys are elbow draggers. Some guys are knees close to the fairing and will drag at severe angles. Some guys are short. Some guys are taller than normal.It is so diverse and so extensive that there can in no way be a perfect position to suit everyone. The arms, elbows and ass are key. Where your head is as shown above can be different than the next guy's. See what I mean?Do what makes you feel comfortable and work from there. We can help you get better, but if you are tense and trying too hard, it won't come for a long time as you'll be fighting it all the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted January 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Thanks for chiming in Brian! Have you thought about (or maybe you already do) letting folks post their picture and you just give a couple tips you see that may help? I realize there's a lot that goes into it, but I imagine someone like you could say "you may want to tighten up your right leg" ... plus it builds a relationship so they'll come to your track day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 What are you talking about? You da' man' date=' Jinu! You're dragging everything in this pic!! [/quote']i'm going to give you aids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Those two pics are crazy man, thats not leaning, thats damn near falling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Those two pics are crazy man' date=' thats not leaning, thats damn near falling [/quote'] Tire choice, no Shinko's there. The lean angles you can get with race tires is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) I don't see anything too egregious in his form. In fact, late apexing the dragon is usually a pretty good idea.and he's got spartan leathers on! Edited January 8, 2010 by Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earache Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I don't see anything too egregious in his form. In fact, late apexing the dragon is usually a pretty good idea.and he's got spartan leathers on! Yup. And let's not compare it to a race track corner - not the same at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yup. And let's not compare it to a race track corner - not the same at all.That's something that is really important for dragon virgins to understand. Staying on the outside of the turn and waiting to lay it in until you can see through is key. Too many asshats out there blowing the double yellow.Ironically, this pic was just 2 down from the R1 guy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earache Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Wanna see some shitty form that the guy made "work" for him?Here ya go...He's got his butt way off the seat, must be just trying to get his knee down to show off..Head is nowhere near the "mirror" area that some think it has to be in. He must be slow. Edited January 8, 2010 by Earache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 they hadn't invented dragging knee yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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