aracnid007 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2010/01/11/ignatius-piazza-this-will-enrage-you/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 grrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Let them try to ban guns here in the US. It will not work. Our citizens will not go quietly should this happen. There also will not be too many people that will turn in a firearm while they still have live ammo at hand. We will not go by way of Britian, Canada or Australia. If this happens, our government will be overturned by the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 "This won't happen here"... take a look at the Katrina firearms seizures. Also look at Zimbardo's prisoner/guard experiments... it's amazing what a subversive role will do to people, and what a little power does to people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 "This won't happen here"... take a look at the Katrina firearms seizures. Also look at Zimbardo's prisoner/guard experiments... it's amazing what a subversive role will do to people, and what a little power does to people.Oh it may be tried, but mark my words, it will not succeed.This was on that site https://www.frontsight.com/free-gun.aspToo good to be true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Your free gun only costs you $1200! Deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 more scare tactics. by someone who stands to profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 yes that is a scam... same concept as timeshare presentations... except this dude actually requires you to buy something.I'll mark your words... but hopefully I never have to.Molan Labe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 likwid....New Orleans needed to be done. All they did was collect firearms out of abandon houses, preventing them from ending up in the gangs hands. I have a cousin that had to live thru the gangs and checkpoints. He said the government was too soft on what was going on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 yes that is a scam... same concept as timeshare presentations... except this dude actually requires you to buy something.I'll mark your words... but hopefully I never have to.Molan Labe I hope you don't have to either. But this idea is not that unrealistic to think it could be tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Molan LabeI hate that phrase, to me it is just as stupid as flying a rebel flag for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 OH, I just ordered you this t shirt. I guess you can return it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 The rebel flag is a symbol of a losing side of a conflict. In my opinion it shouldn't have much of a since of pride associated with it. When the Spartans used the phrase they were ultimately annihilated. To me they both have the same sentiment with the same result. LOSER! I understand wanting to flip off the powers that be but I really don’t see aligning myself with losing endeavors. Both symbols have no power behind them for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 let them try to ban guns here in the us. It will not work. Our citizens will not go quietly should this happen. There also will not be too many people that will turn in a firearm while they still have live ammo at hand. We will not go by way of britian, canada or australia. if this happens, our government will be overturned by the people. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Another "more fear" article. This one seems to be fuel to get you to buy his crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 The rebel flag is a symbol of a losing side of a conflict. In my opinion it shouldn't have much of a since of pride associated with it.When the Spartans used the phrase they were ultimately annihilated. To me they both have the same sentiment with the same result. LOSER!I understand wanting to flip off the powers that be but I really don’t see aligning myself with losing endeavors. Both symbols have no power behind them for me.The rebel flag I won't really defend, but Molan Labe is a powerful statement. Regardless of their ultimate success or failure, it was their way of saying "we will not rollover for you".When the Cleveland police say "Noone can own a gun in Cleveland" are you going to go turn your guns in to the police department or are you going to say "Come and get them"?Just an example, but you get what I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotheus Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 gun owners in austraila, britain and canada have been warning us for years. we cant relax and look the other way....it can happen here. speaking of the rebel battle flag, AFX makes a nice looking "heritage not hate" helmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aracnid007 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Ok, here's a little article that's not trying to get you to buy anything...http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/1079 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Ok, here's a little article that's not trying to get you to buy anything...http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/1079That's about CIFTA not the UN arms trade agreement the first is referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Understandable' date=' but I see it differently. I don't believe the Spartans were defeated. Well, they all died, but they didn't surrender to a tyrant. That's the reason behind the cult following of the saying.[/quote']I don't know about tyrant. It was a war like any other of the times and they were beaten. Brave and tough culture, but I'm not sure living in or being a citizen in Sparta would really be anything to be proud of. Unless you follow the glamorized Hollywood view of it all I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aracnid007 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 That's about CIFTA not the UN arms trade agreement the first is referring to. This is true, but they are both leading up to the same outcome...dis-arming America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 This is true, but they are both leading up to the same outcome...dis-arming America.Slippery slope fallacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotheus Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 from what i understand, the spartans at thermopylae were tasked with buying time for the greek army to assemble. they were able to hold up the persian army and the greeks eventually defeated the persians. if that is correct then i believe that would be considered a victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotheus Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 oh yeah.....i renewed my nra membership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilTwin Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 When the Spartans used the phrase they were ultimately annihilated. To me they both have the same sentiment with the same result. LOSER!The Spartans at Thermopylae were all killed yes, but they succeeded in their goal, which was to inspire the rest of Greece to put aside their political differences and to stand together and fight, as well as to stall the Persian army while the major Greek powers rallied, and built up the defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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