joshfz.2008 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 went for a ride today and noticed that i was letting off of the throttle mid turn to correct my line a little. but with that comes the characteristics of the motorcycle which makes it want to stand up a little. should i trail brake more to scrub off a little speed and keep my throttle input steady? open for suggestion.Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofear_racing1 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 first of NEVER NEVER NEVER use brakes in a corner unless you absoluty have to unless you want to pick you and your bike up off the ground.(im not saying it cant be done but its not safe at all)alot has to due with body position, experience, and how comfortable you are with speed. I tend to accelerate all the way through the corners. A good trick to start with is look all the way through the turn about 30-40 yards ahead of you. If you are only looking 10-15 yards ahead you tend to have a bad line through the corner and have to correct your line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Stay on the gas and lean harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snodgrass23 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Stay on the gas and lean harder.yeap. ideally you should always be rolling on through the turn at least slightly. On the street, you should always have more room to lean harder as well to tighten the turn when needed.More than likely, you are leaning into the turn too early. Try to move your apexes a little later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 pm'd you a link to a VERY VERY helpful video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Read Twist of the Wrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshfz.2008 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 thanks, i think i need to look at the apex better, because say its a right hand turn i was getting way to the inside and the letting off leaning up a little to get over a little, maybe i need to have more throttle also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snodgrass23 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Read Twist of the Wrist.Or watch the DVD, or both.http://www.twistofthewristdvd.com/home.aspthe trailer on the site is actually pretty long and has some good info as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SnOmAn| Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 One thing too on a turn, always do your braking before you hit the corner, then in the corner you start to throttle it through after you've started in the turn. That's what I was taught... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Slow in, fast out.Not kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Something else is going on that you aren't stating because just letting off of the throttle shouldn't be standing you up if you are using a neutral throttle to start with. You should feel like you a falling into a hole to the inside not standing it up. You should try to make it to a track day because even though you might get some useful information from folks in here you won’t know how to apply it for yourself by just reading it here. Don’t get me wrong there are some very good and fast riders here who haven’t done a track day but the most efficient and cheapest way is to learn from people at the track. If you want to learn how to ride fast a track day is cheap compared to paying for a deductable from trying the wrong information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBWalker Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 should i trail brake more to scrub off a little speed and keep my throttle input steady? open for suggestion.works ok for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 tires and PSI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Letting off the throttle mid turn is as bad as trailing the brake slightly. You are loading the front and that will lead to a low side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Slow in, fast out.Not kidding.Don's tip to keeping the ladies happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 You can get all the good advice in the world here and not have a clue how to impliment it, I second the trackday suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducati guy Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 You can get all the good advice in the world here and not have a clue how to impliment it, I second the trackday suggestion.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Don's tip to keeping the ladies happy! Didn't even notice that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 learn from people at the track. If you want to learn how to ride fast a track day is cheap compared to paying for a deductable from trying the wrong information. Thats pretty soild advice right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshfz.2008 Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 i want to do a track day but need to come up with the money, plus need to buy the leathers. tires are shinko 009 Raven i think its 38psi front, 42psi rear which is factory settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellogsxr Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Set a comfortable corner entry speed, look thru the turn, and roll on the throttle at and out of the apex. Blow your corner entry, and it's a task to correct the rest of it. You're blowin it. Smoothness is key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellogsxr Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Oh, and your tires and tire pressures are hurting. I usually bump down my tire pressures on spirited rides. I personally run 30/30 cold. That's me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 when in doubt gas it out son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 There are numerous threads here about tire pressure and the reason for the suggested pressures. You are way high on the pressure you are using by most sport bike tire standards. The manufacture recommended pressure is for load carrying not sport riding. I got nothing for you though concerning the Shinkos. The standing up of the bike by removing throttle is not a tire pressure issue. Changing your tire pressure will improve the handling though. Like I stated earlier there is more happening here if standing up is the result you are getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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