NinjaNick Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 The problem is that you really need them to ride each others bikes. In other words, running two different guys on their own bikes isn't a good test of how well they are really going to do.To keep it totally fair, you need a person to ride both bikes, allow that person to find an optimal setting to fit their usage and then compare lap times.OR, you could literally let Dub ride his own 600 (which should have his prefered settings and he will be used to) and then allow him to ride the ZX10 and make changes. And vice, versa for Kaw guy.It's not going to be any real proof if they run against each other. Someone may have lesser ability, someone may not feel right vs the other, etc. The use of one guy running both bikes is going to net the end result you all are looking for - not a challenge race like being set up...I was going to say what redkow said below in his #2. I agree with Brian, but I don't even think letting the riders change bikes is really a fair way to evaluate which bike is better.1) I promise I'm going to be faster on my bike, because i've got x,xxx track miles on it. Some things are just second-nature to me now.2) If my goal is to prove that your bike is slower, why would I push on your bike?Now if the goal is just to prove who the better rider is, than it's more plausible that trading bikes matters. If i turn a faster lap than you can on YOUR bike, I think that probably makes me the better rider, but the debate started with negative comments about the ZX10's handling.I think a challenge is a challenge. Kawaskiguy and dubguy shouldn't switch bikes because that's not the challenge. Race your bike and the winner is the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I agree with Brian, but I don't even think letting the riders change bikes is really a fair way to evaluate which bike is better.1) I promise I'm going to be faster on my bike, because i've got x,xxx track miles on it. Some things are just second-nature to me now.2) If my goal is to prove that your bike is slower, why would I push on your bike?Now if the goal is just to prove who the better rider is, than it's more plausible that trading bikes matters. If i turn a faster lap than you can on YOUR bike, I think that probably makes me the better rider, but the debate started with negative comments about the ZX10's handling.I only jumped-in because I thought it was incredibly comical that anyone thought a ZX14 would be a good choice on a road course, and wanted a free track day out of it You are getting what I was saying exactly. For example, i do not own a 600 anymore, but I have a 1000... The 1000 is better for my riding style and what I do as a rider... However, I do not own a GSXR600 nor a ZX10. Set me on both and allow me to set them to my likings and let's see which I can make faster laps on... The other thing to weigh is that the 1000 COULD lap faster, but to how much effort involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducati guy Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Let me post a vid of me "Lapping" that 10 from Putnam... Give me a day or so! Lapping?Let the shit talking and excuses begin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubguy85 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Lapping?Let the shit talking and excuses beginYes sir.. U started 1 person behind me, and I passed u on the track.. True or False MR BAY?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 ^ lol. I heart bench racing.a buddy of mine "laps" me almost every session. He has tire warmers, and I don't. We've learned to grid up far enough apart that he "laps" me at about 3 laps into the session. He comes by me, and it's game on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubguy85 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 ^ lol. I heart bench racing.a buddy of mine "laps" me almost every session. He has tire warmers, and I don't. We've learned to grid up far enough apart that he "laps" me at about 3 laps into the session. He comes by me, and it's game on We both have warmers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 "my clutch was slipping." :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducati guy Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) I'm just slow : ) that's my excuse..oo and that andy lives at putnam hahahI need gold rear sets : ) Edited June 25, 2010 by ducati guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 it was quite amusing to watch those two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubguy85 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I'm just slow : ) that's my excuse..oo and that andy lives at putnam hahahI need gold rear sets : )I just spit my coke out! I don't LIIIVE at Putnam! I just grew up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Why is this thread not in the "where all ghey threads go" forum?because we were waiting for you to post in here first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducati guy Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 I just spit my coke out! I don't LIIIVE at Putnam! I just grew up there!Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standout Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Oh man I can't wait til mid-ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R leaks in Cycle Worldhttp://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/09/2011-kawasaki-zx-10r-leaks-in-cycle-world/Jumped the gun... I'm skeptical of that hp claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 i think i found my new bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hqkGVSGNPw&feature=player_embeddedToo big for you Kawi, maybe this guy'll sell you his when he's done with it. You might even be able to get both feet on the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 if i cant touch the ground ill get the set up bkizz has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Which model gets 200 ponies? The one the rags get or the one that is actually for sale at the dealerships?I used to be all about the ponies...but they dont mean much on the street and I'm sorry Kaw fans..but Kaw's chassis sucks ass and the ergonomics are horrible. If I had to go buy a brand new bike...it wouldn't be a Kaw based on what's available now. This new bike could change my opinion...but I seriously doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Inya go buy a honda already.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 He can try mine if he likes, no one else is riding it, damn thing has been sitting since the end of July.ZX = better brakes way more engine up topCBR = easier to ride because it out handles the ZXcomfort is a wash for my size but bigger guys will find the ZX more comfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 You are about my height. I found my cbr not to bad? use to do all day rides on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obesityrules Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 this picture made me think of that dude that cut holes in his frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I find the CBR's comfort to be just fine and will ride all day. Comfort is personal though and for my size I didn't need the extra room the ZX offers but it wasn't uncomfortable at all. I had a CBR1100XX that was okay for me but the Busa I had fit me perfectly, others will find just the opposite so it's really hard to define comfort on a sport bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I'll have to take you up on that one UP. I've ridden a gixxer..but never a CBR. There is a difference in ergos between the zixxer and gixxer. I'm grateful that my 08 is waaaaaay better than the 06 was..but I know there's room for improvment. Brakes? Oh yeah...I'll give Kaw that. Didn't have to do a damn thing with the brakes. A+ in that department. Even kept me from hitting any more trees!I guess I'm more interested in the little parts that make more of a difference than HP. Lately Kaw seems to lag in that department. And exactly how long did it take for someone to say 'lets put the turn signals in the mirrors'?? I want my $250 back for importing my Kaw euro turn signals dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Agreed...one persons comfort is another person's agony. One's ass might be more sensitive than the next...or the distance from his ankle to his knee might be longer...even though he is smaller and lighter than the next. every bike is different..just like the riders. When I used to commute almost daily...it was bearable. But...having sat on a Busa almost two weeks ago I can say without a doubt that I would be much more comfortable on that bike. The zixxer is ideal for the track ergo wise...not so much for the street..but they don't really make sport bikes to commute to work and back so I'll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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