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I as well as most others here know that gun shops, LE and military all allow morons in their ranks. If they didn't they'd be in violation of the EOE laws. ;)

I resemble that comment. :lol:

you better bring your A game because there will be 20-30 damn good shooters here.

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Don't lie, clays was the best you did. And that wasnt great. :)

Bring that pistol over now I'm home. We'll shoot and you can get your box of awesome that I'm holding for you.

I'm not gonna lie I was nervous as hell. After I got settled in and my timing down I was right up there close to ben. I had 7 or 8 then josh fucked me with a broken one and thew off my next shot. I have never shot in front of that big of a crowd before lol.

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I'm not gonna lie I was nervous as hell. After I got settled in and my timing down I was right up there close to ben. I had 7 or 8 then josh fucked me with a broken one and thew off my next shot. I have never shot in front of that big of a crowd before lol.

Don't blame me, you should have been able to hit that. lol

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You're actually on the anytime list bish, you know that.

:banana: I know this. :D

Lol! I really didn't shoot much honestly I just talked with everyone. If we had more fresh targets I prob would have. I could never tell where I was hitting lol

Very true. That's why I kept hitting the steel. At least you could hear when you hit.

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22's have no knock down power.

I've heard this a lot, and I understand the basic principle that bigger bullet makes a bigger hole, but bullets are explicitly designed to PIERCE, not knock people down.

a rubber bullet or bean-bag is designed to knock people down by being blunt; as in the opposite of sharp (like a bullet).

So when people are making claims about "knock down" and "stopping" power, I assume they really mean "immediate and obvious pain."

A .45 inflicts more immediate and obvious pain than a .22? - I'll buy that, but my suspicion is that if I were to shoot someone with a .22, they wouldn't be sticking around to find out if the second shot tickled.

Now that said, I do believe that an armed home intruder IS likely to have something larger than a .22, and being out-gunned is never ideal. If someone's breaking in JUST to cause me harm (and not for their own personal financial gain), then the benefits of having a larger caliber round at your disposal make more sense - but I think that will rarely be the case.

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I've heard this a lot, and I understand the basic principle that bigger bullet makes a bigger hole, but bullets are explicitly designed to PIERCE, not knock people down.

a rubber bullet or bean-bag is designed to knock people down by being blunt; as in the opposite of sharp (like a bullet).

So when people are making claims about "knock down" and "stopping" power, I assume they really mean "immediate and obvious pain."

A .45 inflicts more immediate and obvious pain than a .22? - I'll buy that, but my suspicion is that if I were to shoot someone with a .22, they wouldn't be sticking around to find out if the second shot tickled.

Now that said, I do believe that an armed home intruder IS likely to have something larger than a .22, and being out-gunned is never ideal. If someone's breaking in JUST to cause me harm (and not for their own personal financial gain), then the benefits of having a larger caliber round at your disposal make more sense - but I think that will rarely be the case.

Almost everything you said in this post is wrong.

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here is a decent article... http://www.chuckhawks.com/beginners_stopping_power.htm .

its not all about pain its about how the bullet reacts when it hits its target. i prefer the nornady ftx critical defense ammo. its designed to puncture through thick materials like denim and then spread out for more of an impact.

http://www.hornady.com/store/critical_defense/

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Went shooting today(half day of work) was looking at some wheel guns for summer carry. I like my xd but it would be nice to have a wheel gun I could drop in my pocket and go. Liked the ruger lcr and the smith bodyguard 38. Smith has a built in laser which was kinda cool. Both very light, the ruger has a recoil shock dampner in the grip which would be nice. Both were not to bad in price and this was at stonewall, so better prices are easy to find. I liked the smith has a cylinder release behind the rear site not on the side(left handed here) so the controls were better for me to use.

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So this got me thinking, in pistols that can be either 9mm, 40 or 45, do you go for the more capacity with the 9mm, a few less with the 40 or even more less with 45. From Sig's website = (9mm) 17 Rounds, (.357 SIG,.40 S&W) 14 Rounds, (.45ACP) 10 Rounds

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=54&productid=66

I am leaning towards some some type of semi auto pistol, either in 9mm or 40.

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